motu2408 and lucid2496 ad converters

[plex]

are any of you using your 2408/pci324 with other converters through the spdif in on the 2408 breakout box? i am considering the lucid a/d but am not sure if 96k recording would be possible. i already tried hooking a art dio 2496 converter to the motu but there wasnt any way to set the pci324 console to 96k even though it is supposed to be 96k ready. will i have to get a clock too? i know i could get the 1296 motu unit and everything would probably work fine but i want to try some ultra high quality converters first even if it means only getting 2 channels. any experiences,help or suggestions would be appreciated greatly.

[vor51@hotmail.com]

First of all make sure you're using the latest drivers for 324 card. The 2408 does have a clock, so it's just a matter of configuration. I believe only the newer core systems like MkII and 1224 have a 324 which is 96k ready try contacting Motu tech support by phone very early in the morning - they don't answer emails for weeks. Are you on Mac or PC?

[vor51@hotmail.com]

For high end converters also take a look at RME stuff - www.rme-audio.com (http://www.rme-audio.com) very pro quality.

[plex]

i did e-mail motu.i hope the old 2408 i have is 96k ready. i am running a p3-800eb i put together last december. i have considered the rme stuff,it still looks promising,but i don't want to can my pci324 and rework my daw yet, maybe for my next box. i am using cakewalk sonar with the beta3 wdm drivers pretty stable at 5.8ms latency. haven't installed the beta4 drivers yet just dl last night. os is win98se ;ram is 512mb cas2 pc133. thanks for the response and the link.

[vor51@hotmail.com]

I was talking about RME external converters. Yuo can stil use your PCI card just connect the converter via S/PDIF or AEB.

[stormkloud]

It sure is a shame that the 1224's converters arent 96K capable. I have 2 of them and I am thinkin of going to 96K. I guess Ill have to shell out the $3500 for 2 1296's,yeh right
I think ill stay at 48K for a while.
Storm

[vor51@hotmail.com]

Are you kidding. If you have 1224 stick with it. They're very good converters. As for 96khz you'll need three times faster system and two large 10,000 SCSI drives to run it without any problems. I just bought 1224 myself it's still in the mail should be here next week. I don't think you'll hear a big difference between 48 or 96 - the human ear won't pick up that high. Wait till Motu release something newer then 1296, then go shop on ebay, the price will drop dramatically. I've seen one 1296 core system sold for $1600

[Bob Booth]

Are you guys going to jump on the 128KHz or 192KHz or whatever they come up with next that we don't have bandwagon, too? 96KHz gear is a gimmick as far as I'm concerned. Who, besides audiofiles with well trained ears and engineers with nothing better to do, is going to be able to tell the difference? I just don't see the need to spend money on something 99 44/100% of the population is never going to appreciate/hear.
If you're going to replace all your gear with the 512KHz gear when it comes out in a few years, I'll be glad to "dispose" of all your "outdated" 48KHz stuff! :-)
Please e-mail me for my shipping address.
Just my 2 cents. No, I'm won't be upgrading to 4 cents. http://www.audioforums.com/forums/biggrin.gif

Bob Booth
Turner Valley Studios

[plex]

when you are building up your home/project studio to the next level,improving your front end mikes,preamps,better a/d converters make sense.i started out 15 years ago on a little 244 tascam 4 trk and i still love the thing.i don't think anyone here is fooled by manufacturer hype but i do believe that if you want to get the most out of your 24bit software and signal chain you should start with the best a/d unit you can afford.in my case i have been recording at 16 bit 18 bit 20 bit and now would like a great 24 bit gold channel.since most of these 24bit units in my price range are also 96k that will also allow me to experiment at that sample rate and also leave the door open to future system upgrades. dvd audio?

[vor51@hotmail.com]

BTW, the LynxTwo supports 192kHz

[downdeep]

Plex and Keith,
Greetings. In answer to one of your questions, I believe that only the 1296 handles 88/96 ad/da. Unless something was radically changed without notice, I was told a while back that the other boxes won't handle hi-rez audio and clocks even using the digital i/o. The mytek a/d's are pretty cool. I haven't heard much response about the 1296 in terms of whether the AES can properly handle an external converter's input.What would really be cool is if MOTU created a 88/96/192 version of their 308. That would work...

---Victor

[plex]

I got the Lucid a few weeks ago and am very happy with it.Tech support at motu told me I should be able to record from the spdif input of the 2408(where the lucid ad is connected)and the other inputs on the 2408 simultaneously.I cannot get more than one type of input to show up in sonar no matter what configuration or clock source I set up in the pci console.Are any of you using multiple inputs on your 2408 i.e. adat + analog ins;or spdif + analog ins http://www.audioforums.com/forums/redface.gifr adat plus spdif ins? I always used the adat ins and analog outs and really did not think multiple formats inputs was possible on this box until danny at motu said it could be done. I also found an example of adat plus analog inputs in my 2408 manual.Could this be a sonar problem or some other software anomaly? I am running win98se with beta 3 wdm drivers.About 96k recording I am resigned to eventually getting a second sound card for the lucid exclusively for this purpose. Looking at ones with wdm drivers like m-audio audiophile and di/o2496.