View Full Version : DAW Based on Intel DP965LT Mainboard ??
bitCrusher
10-10-2007, 03:37 PM
Hi everyone,
i plan to customise an Intel based audio wokstation with an Rock solid Board an actual Processor like the E6850 and XP Pro as OS. I allrady have a 1010LT PCI Audiointerface.
Is the DP965LT a good choice for a low noise an efficient mobo?
http://www.intel.com/cd/products/services/emea/deu/motherboards/desktop/292143.htm
Is it true that the Board supports 1066 and the CPU needs 1333?
What timings for the 2*1024 MB RAM are recommended?
:confused:
nagal
10-10-2007, 03:42 PM
Timings for that board will be based strictly on speed or the info programmed into the EPP of the memory.
I doubt the E6850 will work in the DP965. The P965 chipset is only rated for 1066 FSB. Other P965 board support 1333 FSB through overclocking and that Intel board has NO overclocking features.
Honestly for a little more money you can get a Q6600 which would be much better for a DAW IMO/
bitCrusher
10-10-2007, 03:51 PM
Hey nagal,
thanks for your answer in time :)
Is there any other Intel Board you suggest?
IMO Xp Supports only 2 Cores.
poorsod
10-10-2007, 04:12 PM
no XP will support up to 16 cores IIRC (maybe more?) Certainly more than 4, you will have no problem with the Q6600. It is an excellent processor.
nagal
10-10-2007, 04:12 PM
XP will support all four cores. The limitations is based on physical CPUs and not cores.
The DP965 is a good board and you are right in that Intel stuff is rock solid. I would probably go with a board based on the P35 Chipset. If you are planning on using a FireWire Audio Interface, make sure the board has a TI FireWire Chipset.
I currently use an Asus P5B-Deluxe/WiFi which has been a great mobo but it is a P965 board.
I have heard lots of good things about the Asus P5K which is P35 but not TI firewire.
I am sure itsplayed will be stopping in with his recommendations shortly :)
itsplayed
10-10-2007, 06:41 PM
XP will support all four cores. The limitations is based on physical CPUs and not cores.
The DP965 is a good board and you are right in that Intel stuff is rock solid. I would probably go with a board based on the P35 Chipset. If you are planning on using a FireWire Audio Interface, make sure the board has a TI FireWire Chipset.
I currently use an Asus P5B-Deluxe/WiFi which has been a great mobo but it is a P965 board.
I have heard lots of good things about the Asus P5K which is P35 but not TI firewire.
I am sure itsplayed will be stopping in with his recommendations shortly :)
LOL...I see that you've got my number nagal...I just can't seem to help myself in trying to help others...:D
Anyway, I do second your recommendation on going with the P35 chipset and the Q6600 processor.
As far as the MoBo goes, it's a crapshoot. Most Motherboards are horrible at IRQ allocations. Now this may or may not be an issue depending on what devices are being shared.
I'm still working on that new build of mine, just haven't had the time these last couple of months to finalize it.
Otherwise, if it was complete, I could opine confidently either way with the MSI P35 offering, even though it won't be used as a DAW.
I'm quite surprised by the lack of this type of information on motherboard review sites, because I do feel it's a big one, even if many users have little issue with IRQ sharing.
Based on what I know at the present time, I'd have to recommend the MSI P35 motherboard(being that my current MSI board has no equal when it comes to IRQ allocations(AFAIK))....
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=2142
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3020
.....and go with XP Pro!
bitCrusher
10-11-2007, 02:21 AM
Also thanks for recommendations !!
But ist there anny board out there that is still comming with only neccessary features? I dont need a flag ship. I want a efficient and rock solid board.
VGA function is not needed. I want a PCIe 8600GT without a fan. :)
itsplayed
10-11-2007, 03:55 AM
Well, if I were to take a gamble on an Intel board, I think it would have to be this offering......
http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/DP35DP/index.htm
Even if IRQ sharing is a problem, you have three PCI slots to correct it. Out of three slots, you'd figure that one has to be unshared. Besides...it's cheap($125.US), sports the P35 chipset and is quad core ready....what more can you ask for? Well, how about 12 USB ports, 6 SATA ports and 2 Firewire ports? Sounds like a full featured board to me...I'm almost tempted to try one out on my next DAW build.
However, If your just looking for a solid P965 offering, then I'd probably choose the same board that nagal's currently running with....the ASUS P5B.
nagal
10-11-2007, 10:24 AM
bitCrusher, I hear you on unwanted features on mobo but in truth the flagship products tend to be the better products. Sometimes the stripped down version are just as good but I tend to go with the flagship just to be safe.
itsplayed, wow that is a nice board. If I did not OC I would actually get it :)
itsplayed
10-11-2007, 10:51 AM
itsplayed, wow that is a nice board. If I did not OC I would actually get it :)
Yes, I thought so as well and you certainly can't ask for a better price....at $125, it's definately worth the gamble, overclocking aside.
nagal
10-11-2007, 10:57 AM
I think that board is the successor to the DP965LT which is another nice rock solid board.
bitCrusher
10-11-2007, 05:07 PM
well well well...
I become closer to decide about the new powefull and rock solid DAW.
Seasonic S 12 Power supply
INTEL Core2 Quad Q6600 2400MHz LGA775 8MB Cache 4Core FSB1066 65nm boxed CPU
But what is to by ?
With ATA & SATA II port, PCIe 16x for GT86?? silent DVI dualmonitoring. Some USB 2.0 controller for storage, keyboard & Printer.
Maybe one ore two PCI/firewire for stationary/portabele storage, audio & dsp interfaces.
The DP965LT or an other prooved efficient mobo without grafik chip or highlevel energy needs?
I want to buy the latest generation of a well formed standard whith quality and longtime lifecycle. There are too mutch troubles with the new interfaces / software. eSATA is nice to have but likes impossible!
nagal
10-11-2007, 05:47 PM
Check out the M series from Seasonic. Modular PSU are nice because you only have the cables you need inside the case. Either way, you can not go wrong with a Seasonic
Go with the Intel board itsplayed linked. Its a nice board.
Sorry no recommendations on slient Video card, still trying to find one I like myself. I am using a beastly ATI X1950XT. It is only loud when I first turn on the computer, very loud. After it settles down, surprisingly is not very noticeable.
itsplayed
10-11-2007, 06:04 PM
One of these GPU's will work for you......
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127293
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150238
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125070
This PSU from Seasonic is a beast....it's modular and sports 4*12volt rails....
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151031
Bops2000
10-11-2007, 07:06 PM
Make sure you gotz a big enough case, I see that mobo has some bigass capacitor cans on it.
I would fan the crap out of it front back and side. - even, exit stage right...
Choosing GPU with no fan is not so important - CPU fan is an monster which covers all noise on the world.
itsplayed
10-12-2007, 02:26 AM
Choosing GPU with no fan is not so important - CPU fan is an monster which covers all noise on the world.
I will agree on changing out the stock CPU fan, but some(if not, most) GPU fans just scream.....why take the risk on getting a screamer? Besides, it's just another device you need to monitor(be aware of), as once the fan on the GPU goes, so does the unit......not so, on a silent one.
nagal
10-12-2007, 10:56 AM
Speaking of GPU fans I found this yesterday Thermalright HR-3 Fanless Video Card Cooler. It seems to work on most modern Vid cards and they even have a model for the GT8800. This is going to allow me to keep my ATI X1950XT 512MB :D
So the point is, you can buy whatever card you want and slap this on. Sure it would be cheaper to find a fanless card but this is another solution.
itsplayed
10-12-2007, 05:29 PM
Speaking of GPU fans I found this yesterday Thermalright HR-3 Fanless Video Card Cooler. It seems to work on most modern Vid cards and they even have a model for the GT8800. This is going to allow me to keep my ATI X1950XT 512MB :D
So the point is, you can buy whatever card you want and slap this on. Sure it would be cheaper to find a fanless card but this is another solution.
Yes, they've been around for a while now......here's a site that sports a few different models.....
http://www.quietpcusa.com/Video-Card-Coolers-C23.aspx
They even make silent CPU coolers, but I don't think I'd take a chance on one without a fan blowing directly on the heatsink or at the very least, a well, cross ventilated case.
Bops2000
10-12-2007, 05:39 PM
Zalmar Hands down
itsplayed
10-12-2007, 05:47 PM
Zalmar Hands down
I agree with you Bops....this would be my choice.....
http://www.quietpcusa.com/Zalman-Premium-Fanless-VGA-Heatpipe-Cooler-VNF100-P276C23.aspx
You may lose a PCI slot to it though.
*Update: I have since been doing some digging on that P35 Intel board and it would seem that many are having issues with the BIOS on it. I would call this board a no go for the time being. bitCrusher have you made a decision yet? Based on what I know now, I would either go with your original plan, the ASUS P5B or the P35 offering from MSI.......I hope that I'm not too late in providing you with this info!
wensap
10-13-2007, 09:31 PM
Regarding motherboards, The P35 being a newer chipset could be better.I think the chipset is lower power It aso supports ddr3 memory which runs faster but uses less power. I think the lower heat output could be a good thing.
Bops2000
10-13-2007, 10:08 PM
I will have to say, and Stevie knows where I am at.
If you are going to gamble -know the risks.
i have beat up a few mobo's for daw, and found, so far, that the pentium d presler)?) is hands down for me - quite suitable for my audio needs.
If it works, I am happy puppy. The need for speed is cool, however the integrity is far more important to me (as to solidity in workflow). MSI or Biostar mobos, with intel chipsets work well for me also. i wouldn't gamble on heresay, just to be ahead of the game, I would just get a solid system that I could count on.
ASUS mobos with AMD processors work great on my internet machines, but are no place to go for a DAW.
That had nothing to do with this thread - thank you for allowing me to deliberately waste your time, no we don't have any cheese....
itsplayed
10-13-2007, 10:42 PM
I will have to say, and Stevie knows where I am at.
If you are going to gamble -know the risks.
i have beat up a few mobo's for daw, and found, so far, that the pentium d presler)?) is hands down for me - quite suitable for my audio needs.
If it works, I am happy puppy. The need for speed is cool, however the integrity is far more important to me (as to solidity in workflow). MSI or Biostar mobos, with intel chipsets work well for me also. i wouldn't gamble on heresay, just to be ahead of the game, I would just get a solid system that I could count on.
ASUS mobos with AMD processors work great on my internet machines, but are no place to go for a DAW.
That had nothing to do with this thread - thank you for allowing me to deliberately waste your time, no we don't have any cheese....
LOL.....Words of wisdom Bops, words of wisdom. And I do agree, you should know the risks involved when dealing with the unknown. I try and get a feel beforehand on what many others are choosing to gamble on and seeing if they're gamble has paid off with good end results.
The ASUS P5B is a popular board in the i965 arena....the P35 offerings are a bit more in that gray area, but it does, for the most part, seem to be a good chipset to go with to build that DAW.
When building that DAW, it's hard to judge a board by tech reviews alone, as most reviews are centered around the gaming industry first and foremost. It's a shame, but this is the medium that drives the industry. So when you see a board that interests you, you need to be vigilant and cruise all related DAW sites (including the user boards for your interface of choice)to see if others(and how many) are running with that board successfully. You need to try and swing those compatibilty odds back into your favor.
PS: Welcome to the Forums wensap, glad to have you aboard.
wensap
10-14-2007, 12:30 PM
Thanks for the welcome Itsplayed. I have a G33 chipset in my dell inspiron 530. It is basically a p35 with graphics on board. My machine is running Vista home basic. I did notice that my chipset has had one critical driver update. Mine has been solid out of the box.This machine took over from the Dimension 520, which is still sold at Walmart. Mini ATX rather than BTX of old.
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