Reflections

[87PRS]

where's the best place to put reflective type traps in the studio. I'm thinking o/h of cymbals but may be wrong, need input before I install....thanks

[87PRS]

guys I have 2 of these panels they are around 3 X 3 feet, guess they're not a "trap" they dont trap anything, but will reflect the sound and wave patterns, does anyone have experience with reflective surfaces, other than glass haha....sabianq? anyone? We usually want "absorption" my studio is absorped (is that a word?) help me out

[terry]

I know this may not be what you are asking and I'm in the same process as you. It has been recommended that you take care of the treatment first and if the room sounds to dead you add reflections. Those panels usually end up on the back wall and if you have carpeting you can add a floating floor until you are happy with it. Especially drummers usually put the flooring under their set for the best tonal quality.

[87PRS]

I know this may not be what you are asking and I'm in the same process as you. It has been recommended that you take care of the treatment first and if the room sounds to dead you add reflections. Those panels usually end up on the back wall and if you have carpeting you can add a floating floor until you are happy with it. Especially drummers usually put the flooring under their set for the best tonal quality.

appreciate the response terry, yep did my treatment when the studio went up, been over four years ago I'll try the back wall of the drum room first and see if it livens it up...the floating floor was way too expensive when I set up my "little" studio, so what I did was build a 5X7 drum riser out of 2X4's and filled the framing in with sand, then covered with 3/4 ply, I have a wooden floor so this helped out alot. thanks 87PRS

[jmail]

A "reflective" surface, for me (in my particular recording "environment", which is *not* a studio, btw...) sounds great on the floor, below the acoustic guitar player, who happens to be playing a 1973 Martin D-35, which is rather "dark" sounding compared to say a Gibson J50... By the same token, I do not have a proper "environment" to begin with...

[sabianq]

are you trying to attenuate the ring and slap back from the cymbal hit?

Energy from a cymbal would look a bit like a cymbal with a bright spot where you hit it, if you could see the actual wave form. the "sound image would get bigger and dim out like a smoke ring but have the same qualities (mathematically alike) of the waves that form when you drop a stone in still water. They reflect in the same way that light reflects off of a mirror, the interference is also mathematically the same.

From seeing this you could infer that the most amount of slap back would come from a wall which is directly mirrored to your ear. flat walls act like mirrors to sound, curved walls comb filter the sound and can actually focus the sound like a lens works on light.
by treating your room like a room full of mirrors, where would you paint the walls to keep your "ears=eyes" from seeing the cymbals.

with this information, you can block out the ring by "in effect painting the walls with foam panels to keep your ears from "seeing/hearing" the sound source.

make use of all the technology from foam absorbers to wood diffusers
have fun

[87PRS]

wow sabi...after that I decided to put it in the live room haha thanks ...water....smoke ring, now were talkin'

problem is....got all the technology....now what seems to be the problem is my stupid brain is not processing....elements....I like the painting, thanks

gotcha jmail, up to now only reflective (water) surface has been under my arse....does dis mean we jammin in da kitchen again?