for Audiophile 192 users

[Rino]

Whats up everyone!

Just got the AP192. Installed with the lastest driver available on the M-Audio site, now and i need some info about the windows playback.

I'm using a RCA cord that goes from the auxiliar output of my stereo to the Monitor L R of the soundcard through 2 RCA to 2 1/4 adapters.

The thing is, i got the audio, but sometimes i hear some weird small noises when i'm playing music. these noises come up in quite strange circumstances such as copying and pasting some archive from a folder to another or when browsing the net. It don't happen to be THAT annoying, but for me anything is.

Am I doing something wrong? DO i really need to connect the cord to the Monitor L R or do I have to connect it to the Main L R? the doubt just came when i was searching for answers here on this forum.

Whats DMA Buffer Size? mine is set to 256, codec sample set to 44. Does the problem have anything to do with it?

Monitor mix is set like is shown in the pic

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/erlend/audiophile.jpg

PS: I disabled the onboard soundcard on the PC BIOS

Thanks in advance.

[tech1]

Is it Windows sounds that you're hearing? In other words, do they only come through when you do things in Windows? Try disabling Windows sounds to see if it goes away. To do this, go to Start > Control Panel > Sounds and Audio Devices and select the Sounds tab. Choose "No Sounds" for the Sound scheme, and press "OK."

[Rino]

Hey, thanks for the reply.

No, the windows sounds are disable. Its not the windows sounds, its about music. I hear little clips while playing music. Its hard to explain when the clips/noises happen. usually when i'm on a site that have animated gifs, the clips happen while the gif image is moving, its really weird.

It does happen only with Firefox though.

When i copy a file from my pc and paste on another folder, i hear a little clip while i'm listening to music. like i said, its nothing something that i can't live with but it annoys me anyway.

I tried to change the codec samples, the Buffer size but nothing changed.

Just plugged the cord into the Main out L R instead of the Mon out LR and nothing changed.

Does it have anything to do with the Delta driver? I installed the latest Delta driver, can't see it beeing part of the problem.

[MrHope]

you need to connect your soundcard to your stereo's aux ***INPUT*** not it's aux ***OUTPUT***.

[tech1]

It does happen only with Firefox though.

Seems like a tweaky bug to me.

[Rino]

you need to connect your soundcard to your stereo's aux ***INPUT*** not it's aux ***OUTPUT***.my bad, i meant input, not output.

[Rino]

Seems like a tweaky bug to me.what do you mean?

[ecc83]

I have 2496's but I don't think the card is the problem.
Even though I have disabled every mortal source I can find I still get the odd squeak of something when online.

Moral; if you are doing serious soundy things, don't be logged in.

Dave.

[itsplayed]

what do you mean?

I think he means that if Firefox is the only app. that shows issues, starting there makes the most sense. If the issue does not manifest itself when using internet explorer as well, than I'd say that the issue does not lie with the soundcard.

[Rino]

But i get the odd clip when i'm using a program sometimes too, or using Windows Explorer. like i said in the third post. its a quiet clip, maybe its the same thing that happens with ecc83, not sure.

[itsplayed]

Have you checked your IRQ's for issues? Particularly those that concern your soundcard and graphics card. Are you also using more than one media player? If so, have you made sure to designate one as default and the others at idle? Personally, I just choose one and stick with it. It makes no sense to me to load multiple apps. that all do the same thing. If your also happy with Mozilla....Kill IE(IMHO).

[Rino]

haha IE7 is better!

i'm going to check my media default program. but i'm pretty sure that i have iTunes as my default player.

[itsplayed]

haha IE7 is better!

i'm going to check my media default program. but i'm pretty sure that i have iTunes as my default player.

I have heard of issues concerning the Windows version of iTunes, but this could just be heresay. I tend to avoid any of the Apple products on my Windows machine as well as real player or quicktime. Look at MediaMonkey as an iTunes alternative if Windows Media Player turns you off....although I do like the newer version of WMP.

[Rino]

Yep, it does happen on WMP11 too. maybe because i have iTunes on default?

[itsplayed]

Yep, it does happen on WMP11 too. maybe because i have iTunes on default?

Could very well be, I know from past experience that it's best to use one app. for any specific task. Of course that's not to say you can't use multiple, but you do run the risk of conflict. Did you designate iTunes as the default player before or after letting WMP it's no longer king of it's domain?

[therobotjeff]

Hey man chances are you are having the same problem I did when I first got my Audiophile 192 about 3 months back. Despite checking all my IRQ configurations and moving my card to different PCI slots I always seemed to get this strange glitchy skip sound through my speakers when using the card. Finally I figured it out through reading several different support forums on the web. It seems that the audiophile 192 is a little sensitive to the incoming and outgoing signal date transmited by wired and wireless network cards, more so if they're not onboard, and that sound you hear is actually your internet signal transmitting...hence why you mostly seem to hear it while surfing the web. For the most part I just dont play music or video through my card while cruising the web, and when I want to record I disable my network connection so my audio tracks dont get corrupted. Try adding an additional sound card to your PC, the low cost sound blaster series I was using for a while didnt seem to be affected by internet noise at all. In the end I kinda see the fact that I can't record if I'm online as a blessing because it keeps me focused on the task at hand.

Jeff

[Rino]

Hey thanks people.

Will disconnect my net and see if a get rid of this problem.

My Internet is onboard though. don't have a PCI for that.

Hey Jeff, do you plug your regular speakers into your Audiophile? on the Monitor L R? I still am not sure about where i plug it. i'm using a RCA to 1/8 adapter with a 2RCA to 2RCA cord. If i use my onboard card to play sounds, of course that i'll have to enable the audiophile everytime i record.

[therobotjeff]

My original speaker setup was using 1/4" mono adapters to RCA cable and going from the Monitor outs of the 192 into the CD or AUX in of my reciever. You can also use your Main outs on the 192 but the disadvantage there is that you cannot control your output levels from the card only from your external source. The Main out connection is mostly used for recording to external devices like tape decks or digital recorders at a consistant volume from a mixed source.

What kind of speakers are you using Rino?
currently how do you have your card wired for ins and outs?

[Rino]

i'm using a RCA to 1/8 adapter with a 2RCA to 2RCA cord.sorry, its a 1/4 adapter. For what you just said, i'm practically connecting it the same way you do, but i'm using my home stereo as a receiver.

"currently how do you have your card wired for ins and outs?"

what do you mean? :)

[therobotjeff]

Yeah the whole stereo receiver setup can work as a temp setup until you can invest in some active monitors cause once you switch over to em it's so much sweeter dude. Just incase you havn't been already man just make sure you arent using any equalizer or other sound modifying effects on your reciever, at least not if you're trying to get a somewhat accurate reference. As far as my question goes, i meant how do you have your card and other gear wired together, such as what are you using for recording inputs and so forth.

[Rino]

Ah dude, i plug my guitar directly into the card. i'm in a "learning period" studying Cubase and things like that. As far as the monitoring goes, i plug my stereo on the monitor of the card throgh a RCA cord.

[therobotjeff]

Something to keep in mind is that when it comes to music "it's always a learning period." :) but I too am early on in my days, i've only been at it about 2 or so years, and only about 6 months with appropriate gear. I'll talk to ya more in private message or whatever.

[Rino]

awesome man

[Rino]

Hey Guys, just light me up on this...

Some guy from the support said that the motherboard chipset could be the problem since my cpu is intel and my motherboard is chipset VIA.

But i just noticed that the audiophile has chipset VIA so, what happens?

[Rino]

does the soundcard incompatibility can cause subtle pc restarts?

[itsplayed]

does the soundcard incompatibility can cause subtle pc restarts?

It can, but an incompatability usually results in a non-bootable system altogether. Have you the latest mainboard BIOS and system drivers installed?

[Rino]

Man, my pc is new, i didn't think of updating BIOS or drivers. all i know is that i'm using the lastest Delta driver.

Some guy told me that it is a motherboard incompatibility. I'm using an Intel processor and the motherboard has a VIA chipset. Well, i'm getting another motherboard, this time with Intel chipset and i'll be formatting and installing windows again. i'm tired of it, really. hope that its it.

what do you mean by a non-bootable system? sorry for being an ass.

[itsplayed]

Man, my pc is new, i didn't think of updating BIOS or drivers. all i know is that i'm using the lastest Delta driver.

Some guy told me that it is a motherboard incompatibility. I'm using an Intel processor and the motherboard has a VIA chipset. Well, i'm getting another motherboard, this time with Intel chipset and i'll be formatting and installing windows again. i'm tired of it, really. hope that its it.

what do you mean by a non-bootable system? sorry for being an ass.

Under most circumstances, when a device is not compatible, the system will not even start up. PC restarts. blue screens, etc. usually indicate poor drivers, device conflicts, etc., but not always. You may never get a stable running system even through extensive tweaking. However, I do know of others running with M-Audio cards on VIA based systems....a lot may depend on the particular VIA chipset you have.
VIA chipsets have been problematic for audio for most of it's existence. However, newer VIA chipsets have been fairly stable as of late with the newest drivers installed and as per M-Audio's own take on VIA, it is a compatible chipset for their cards when using the latest VIA drivers.
Because your system is 'new' does not indicate that the latest BIOS/drivers are in fact installed.
What system/mainboard are you running with?
Is this a self built machine or an 'off-the-shelf' system?
When purchasing/installing a new mainboard/computer, it's always best to have downloaded the latest BIOS/drivers for it to install.

http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=support.faq&ID=6e560c6cc16244b41b937de9e6d568d1

On a side note: Even if you can manage to get your VIA based system running fairly stable, I would agree with your intent in upgrading to a MoBo that sports the intel chipset.....it's just better!

[Rino]

Thanks man.

So you think that if i get the mobo with the intel chipset and my system formatted, and my drivers updated, i can get rid of the restarts?

What else could be causing this?

Damn, i wish i could have readed that Via article some months sooner.

Thank you very much.

[itsplayed]

A poor, underrated or failing power supply, incorrect ram, etc. can cause the issue you describe.
Did the trouble begin immediately upon installing the M-Audio card?
What are the specs of your system?

[Rino]

I've already changed the power supply and the Memory. nothing.

If i'm not wrong, I remember that it restarted before i bought the card. I'm just not sure man, you know. thats why i need to clarify things.

Here's my rig

Proc P Dual Core 3.0 Ghz BOX
Motherboard Asus P5VD2-MX s/v/r
1Gb Kingston RAM
Pl Video Ati Radeon X1050 256mb
Delta Audiophile 192 soundcard
HD 160 GB SATA 7200 RPM Maxtor

Thanks.

[itsplayed]

Did you make sure to purchase the correct ram for the mainboard using Kingston's 'ram finder' utility?

[Rino]

Damn man, i didn't. I just asked from a friend to build that system for me.

How do i do this?

[itsplayed]

It's possible that you have the correct ram installed, check the numbers of the ram that you purchased with those found here....
http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/configurator_new/modelsinfo.asp?SysID=19273&mfr=ASUS%2FASmobile&model=P5VD2&root=&LinkBack=&Sys=19273-ASUS%2FASmobile-P5VD2-MX+Motherboard&distributor=0&submit1=Search

I see that this is an MX board....this usually indicates that there is an on-board graphics processor. Did you make sure to disable this feature in the BIOS before installing that add-in graphics card?

[Rino]

NO, i disabled the soundcard but not the Graphic Card. I got the pc all set man.

Damnit

Thank you very much for you help, bro.

[itsplayed]

Your welcome Rino,
Disable the on-board graphics processor within the BIOS to see if it solves your issue. Afterward, I would also perform an uninstall/re-install of the ATI card.

[Rino]

I've got to the BIOS but the only option i found regarding "grafic" was either PCI or PCI-E. Its set to PCI-E. is this what it is all about?

[itsplayed]

The setting is correct.....my advice is to completely remove the M-Audio interface from the system(including it's drivers) and see if you still have issues. If you do, then you know it's not the M-Audio interface and you'll need to look elsewhere for your troubles.
If the audio card is not the issue, check your ram and make sure it's the right model for your mobo. If it is, then I would suggest a complete reformat/re-install of the system.....including a BIOS update as well as current system drivers. If and when you get to that point, I will help you in setting up the system one on one.

[Rino]

my pc restarted before i installed the audiophile man.

Like i said, i'm changing my mobo for one with Intel chipsets.

I just added you to my msn list, thats ok for ya?

Thanks again, bro.

[itsplayed]

my pc restarted before i installed the audiophile man.

Like i said, i'm changing my mobo for one with Intel chipsets.

I just added you to my msn list, thats ok for ya?

Thanks again, bro.

Sorry, I thought you said that you weren't sure of this. Anyway, a new intel based board is certainly not a bad thing, just make sure that you check with the ram manufacturer on ram compatability before purchasing that ram. I have no problem being added to your MSN list of buddies and your more than welcome.....cheers.