Aardvark is a VERY unfunny JOKE - did somebody say SeaSOUND ??

[BenI]

OK.........I've had it......its now over 2 years since the low-latency W2K WDM drivers became available.......I bought my LX6 10 months ago expecting and *** being told *** by Aardvark that they were only a matter of "weeks" away and now they release this ABSOLUTE JOKE of a BETA 5 which isn’t even WDM YET - let alone the fact that virtually no-one can even install it !?!?!?!?!?!?!?

My personal opinion is that Aardvark

(a) have not even developed an "alpha-working-WDM-low-latency driver

and

(b) they NEVER will because they DONT KNOW HOW TO !

I mean seriously, does anybody HONESTLY think that IF they could release ANY EVEN REMOTELY WORKING WDM driver of ANY sort that they are "holding back" until they get it "right" - for goodness sake - if you belive that, you'll beleive ANYTHING - W98 is now, in M$ owns words, " history " - even W2K probably only has one more SP left in its life-cycle - EVERYTHING [ apart from ASIO ], on the PC side is WDM - it's open, non-proprietary and is quickly becoming THE audio driver standard.

Aardvark should at LEAST HAVE THE GUT'S to admit to us that we will NEVER see "non-alpha or beta low latency WDM drivers - so....what’s the solution you ask ?

SELL your Aardvark gear and go with a company that provides REGULAR, WORKING, PROVEN WDM drivers - ie:- like Midiman........ luckily I was able to off-load my LX6 just last week and have just ordered my Delta 66 OMNI Studio.

Goodbye and good RIDDENCE Aardvark.

If your corporate stratgy is to limit your hardware to ASIO-only support, then you are NUT'S !!!

Do you guy's REMEMBER SeaSound ???????

Ben
PS:- BTW...have any of you ever tried to SELL your Aardvark gear 2nd hand - MAN !!! did I take a **hit** - not only did I get stuck with non-existent WDM drivers BUT the re-sale value of the hardware itself is SCARY.

[Rv-Sound]

This is just an opinion, a simple comment really. I may be missing something here, but I haven't seen much software yet providing full wdm support like cakewalk's sonar does. For me it seems that ASIO is still the mainstream for now...not that I don't think WDM is better or not. Besides cakewalk's and maybe N-track (wich I'm not sure if it supports kernel streaming or whatever the technology is called), I'm yet to see others merging, in the software side of course. So, I don't still see why the rush right now when I'll be stuck with buying sonar, and a vst adapter, and get to know how it works, even if its a great software, wich I admit.
Let me be clear, I do think aardvark should speed things up for them to be ready when wdm is adopted by other software like it should, and to provide support for current sonar users and winXP users. But i think its also unfair to judge em like that. I'm running the beta 4 drivers using ASIO mostly on win2k and its working pretty good for me now. I have also tried the mme drivers with pretty small latencies for such, and got good results too. Aard's tech support is some of the greatest IMHO, many peeps here can back up that. I do think aardvark will deliver the drivers shortly.

[bombastique]

Let me just say one thing - WDM was thought up by your friends at Microsloth. The main reason developing drivers for it takes so long (and are often buggy..) is because the code itself is extremely convoluted.

This is almost a verbatim comment from a friend of mine that does driver coding for both Mac's and Windoze.

I wouldn't blame it so much on Aardvark as on MS - Aardvark is a very, very tiny company and they have only so much manpower that they can put behind coding. That's just the way of the world. If you want to go to the source, get MS to make coding for their 'standards' a little easier...

[ChuckB]

Please check, but I belive SeaSound is out of business.

Chuck

[getthis]

that's the point BenI was trying to make. that "bad driver support" will lead to Aardvark going out of business........even though their drivers aren't really all that bad, just a little late.

[theguitarguru]

Another reason to buy a Mac.

[aural]

Funny guitarguru!
In the thread about the audiophile,you bitch about Mac support from one of the more respected and popular manufacturers,and now your solution is to "get a Mac".

Right....

[Bajoran]

If I wanted lower track counts, less simultaneous plug-ins and more crashes I'd definitely get a Mac. Funny thing is, I actually don't want those things :)

[Boom]

Anyone know if they straightened out their drivers yet, or are they still on vacation?

[CubaseAark]

I have been here for 3 hours trying to get these drivers to work. version 4 and 5. no luck at all and I have been a pc tech for 5 years. I think Aardvark needs to bite the bullet and hire someone who can write them some drivers. They are slowly but surely geting a bad rep and its to bad cause they have good products. I will try again tomorrow and thats it. I will buy some hardware made for today not 2 years ago.

P4 1.9
XP Pro
512 DDR


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[jbsongs]

I'm almost ready to take my $500 hit and buy a new card after becoming too frustrated with waiting for Aardvark to develop new drivers. Any suggestions on cards similar in quality but not quite as expensive? I'm a songwriter/producer and this delay kills me. Yes, I suppose I could dump everything an go back to ME - but why. I think people are frustrated because Aardvark makes a great sounding card and we don't want to give it up. But at some point we have to be practical.

[Diminishedaugmented]

I have had about enough Aardvark bashing!!

What do you want for the money?

When Aardvark designs a product, how are they supposed to plan for every possible permutation and combination of hardware\OS setup while keeping costs down?


I think some people are getting spoiled!

Do yourself a favour get a couple of removable hard drive enclosures and a couple of hard drives(they're getting pretty cheap these days!)

Setup one for 98selite-use this for recording(ONLY recording),I use:

N-track
Wavelab
Izotope Ozone
Anwidasoft reverb
etc..


Setup the other to use whatever bloatware(I think XP takes 1GB of space!) OS you prefer!(Also use as a backup area for your recorded files) I use:

98selite-no IE
Opera for browsing
Games, Antivirus etc...
Audio file backups
(I installed Protools free on this drive and it works!-can only record two tracks at a time though and its not that stable. That's OK though because its just an experiment,)

You could use a dual boot, but I like having a backup of my files on another physical drive.

Just swap the drives depending on what you want to do.(could do in bios, but I find it easier to just swap em')

Removable hard drives are wonderful thing! If you want you could get a third drive for experimenting with other OS's, Beta drivers(hint,hint!) directx versions, plugins, whatever. (at least you'll always have 1 solid setup to rely on with your main recording drive!)


My system:

Asus A7V (bios 1008)
T-bird 1300
Directpro 24\96
Matrox G450
Etc...

This system NEVER crashes when running on the recording drive!(I'm serious)

It handles more tracks and plugins than I will ever need!(latency is negligable for my needs)

I understand some people are frustrated, but I am confident that Aardvark is doing their best to keep up with the times, so I would be patient.

When I look at the cost of this setup and factor in sound quality track\plugin counts etc... It is unbelievable!!

I shudder to think what this kind of quality costed 5-10 years ago!

Remember, you get what you pay for!

I bought all this stuff a year ago-it would be even cheaper to build now!!(I think you can get an A7V and a 1300 T-bird for around $150-160USD nowadays)


I'm not trying to bash anyone, just sharing my experiences- hopefully it helps someone.

Regards

By the way, If anyone wants to sell any of their Aardvark products I would be interested!!

[JamesM]

Hi Diminished,

Give me a shout re: Aardvark equipment sale.

JamesM www.pcrecording.com (http://www.pcrecording.com)

[CubaseAark]

Diminishedaugmented I dont agree, I want one pc setup, that is solid and no hassles. Win 2000 and XP are built on a different kernal all together than 98 and is way more stable. There is no excuse for Aardvark not having drivers for 2000/XP, it is the year 2002!!!!
They only have software drivers that support an OS that is 4 years old. Imagine if you owned a company that sold a product that wasnt updated for 4 years...give me a break. You can keep your swappable drives and the $200 you spent on them. I will have a stable system that runs on the ntfs file system. No offense but there is no excuse for it, and the other huge reason I am pissed at them is that they lie. They say the driver is coming out next week and it never does. They sold the Aark 24 and it wasnt even 24 bit, whick I didnt find outtill I set it up. I had to wait for the driver. Aardvark needs to bite the bullet, spend the money on programmers for there drivers and hire someone to do quality control because the road they are on now sucks.


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[CubaseAark]

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[caveman]

Yes, I totally agree!

Aardvark is HISTORY!!!!! They need to be up to date to keep uo with Software Manufacturers. There is absolutely no excuse in them not having these Drivers.

I will put my aardvark in its coffin.

Caveman

[Flex]

I sympathize with you guys. This forum saved me before it was too late. I happen to live in the town where Aardvark is and was excited to buy something from a not only a USA company, but also a local company. My first disappointment was that they would not sell me a product direct. So I had to go through a local music store. After buying one of their products I read this forum and listened. I returned it before it was too late and thank god I did. You guys are right. The driver delay is bullsh*t! Especially since it is really looking like there won't be a new driver. I really feel for you guys who are stuck. Usually, Ebay can save you from a situation like this because you can sell your item and buy something else. What really got me is this, there is no market for Aarvark stuff on Ebay. Every other sound card or piece of recording equipment I have is a wanted item. Stuff people look and search for on Ebay. Not the case with Aarvark stuff which really sums it up. These forums are excellent. We don't always like what we read, but forums don't lie. If people are really happy with a product they write about it. If people are unsatisfied with a product they will let you know, don't buy it. For the people who wrote about their bad experience with Aardvark, and it's lack of exceptable drivers, thank you very much. You saved me time and money. Take care.

Flex

[bturner]

I too have had a very frustrating couple of months. I have had my direct pro for about a year and a half on win 98se. It's a great card with clean mic pres. I've got a new p.c. with win 2000 hoping to get more stability with sonar. I did talk with Thomas Adler just before he left for the NAMM show. He said that Feb 1st they would have not only working drivers but also WDM drivers. He said they needed them for the NAMM show and they were working nonstop on the weekend before the show. I am giving them the benefit of the doubt one more time. But if they don't come through this time I must sell it and get something else. Its a shame because I think the card itself is one of the best on the market.

Edit 1-22-02 See my post below. It's actually in the first two weeks in Feb. Not an exact Feb 1st quote.

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[caveman]

Yes, by being a user I think this card has excellent quality.

I am just very frustrated. The main problem here is WDM and no GSIF. I use Gigastudio and the reason why is that Aardvark drivers for GSIF were flawlessly integrated in all products. I did not see anything on development on GSIF drivers whatsoever, so if they cannot produce GSIF either, this card is a loser in my book.

I will wait till FEB on WDM , but need a defiite answer whether they will ever make a gsif driver for 2000.

Very Frustrating!!!

Originally posted by bturner:
I too have had a very frustrating couple of months. I have had my direct pro for about a year and a half on win 98se. It's a great card with clean mic pres. I've got a new p.c. with win 2000 hoping to get more stability with sonar. I did talk with Thomas Adler just before he left for the NAMM show. He said that Feb 1st they would have not only working drivers but also WDM drivers. He said they needed them for the NAMM show and they were working nonstop on the weekend before the show. I am giving them the benefit of the doubt one more time. But if they don't come through this time I must sell it and get something else. Its a shame because I think the card itself is one of the best on the market.

[Rv-Sound]

I think the reason for that is that the giga products are not officially supported by Nemesys to run on win2k. They have just released a beta that supports win2k, but that's about it. http://www.nemesysmusic.com (http://www.nemesys-music.com)

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[CubaseAark]

I will bet anyone here a $100 that the driver will not be released Feb 1st or by March 1st. If it is it will be the first time Aardvark has told the truth about a driver release. Anyone want a Aark 24 for $450? Drop me an e-mail.

[bturner]

Hey guys I made a big mistake in saying that they would have WDM drivers by Feb 1st. I had a private conversation with Thomas at Aardvark and quoted him incorrectly. It should be on or around the first couple of weeks in Feb. And as a matter of fact he has been personally helpful in getting things up and running and I think we may have a solution to beta 5. I'll let you know. Also I must say that support has been very good with Aardvark. Last year I had a problem with one of the XLR inputs and they took care of it just like that. No questions asked. It's a great card, probably one of the best and I think things will work out just fine shortly.

[CubaseAark]

Yah thats what I thought.

Bt Burner you read like an add for Aardvark in every way. You stated that the drivers are coming out, then back out on your statement, then praise them on the great product and support you get. I'll tell you what, I cant record cause I upgraded my pc and forgot that Aardvark is 4 years behind.
Are you sure you dont switch screen names when you log in here from Aardvark to Btburner???

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[Acousticguitar5]

getting a little carried away cubase....

[CubaseAark]

Yah I guess. Shouldnt post drunk. I think I need to vent to Aardvark not you guys. I will be giving them a call. I am still wondering if anyone has an Aardvark product working with a P4 system??? Anyone???

[slight]

My Aardvark works fine on my P4 system (I have a Q10) I'm running 2000 with Nuendo and it's working alright.. Have you mailed the beta support address? I was mailing them cause i was having all sorts of driver problems and i couldn't get the thing to install.. it took a little bit, but they finally got back to me with a working patch and i was up and running...

[gascap]

Originally posted by slight:
.. it took a little bit, but they finally got back to me with a working patch and i was up and running...

They sent a driver patch other then the beta 5 on their web site? Interesting.

[Andrei]

Diminishhead (sorry if I spell wrong )is right for1000% 98lite based systems never crashed. It just a fun to hear about NT stability Yes NTFS is better designed, but not likely you will benefit from that in audioapps. About more plugins...Comparing with typical windows installation yes, comparing
with 98lite - no way.if your interface work fine, who cares that you are not "updated" in microsoft way? WDM driver-it not a driver!!! It is a format for writing driver
and it not "better" than ASIO.
If you are interested in further developed 98lite systems-contact as at sarkapro@sarkapro.com

[slight]

gascap- yeah, the beta guys said there were a few people that were having certain installation problems, and i was one of them.. after some swapping of emails and waiting for their responses they sent me something that got my card to install with out any errors...

Sure, they may be takeing a little longer to write their drivers than some of the other sound card people, but all of Aardvark 95/98 driver releases i installed were rock solid. I'm sure once the XP is "officialy" released, it will kick ass as well..

[gascap]

Slight,

Thanks for the reply.

...Just so I understand, you are now fully functional (more or less) with the beta 5?

I've been having a hell of a time getting latency issues resolved with beta 4. I've been in contact with them as well and hopefully a fix will develope soon. I like XP, but I can only wait so long. I'm sure as soon as I regress to 98, their new XP drivers will be out.

Oh well, it gets me back to actually practicing my instrument in the mean time.

-Cheers!

[Rv-Sound]

slight, would you care to share that new beta5 with me?...I'm curious to try it. You can reach me at rv_sound@hotmail.com

[dhassay]

recently purchased a Q10. I am new to all of this so please go easy on me. I have sonar and 98se and a midi controller keyboard. when I hit a key on my controller using a softsynth in sonar the sound plays 2 or 3 seconds later or so. Is this what the WDM driver is all about? Is this suppose to correct the timing? If this driver is not out yet then what do I do to get this latency a little less obvious? What else does this driver effect? I have always heard to use 98se for dig. recording. Is this still true or should I try out my xp pro for it?

[Boom]

Originally posted by dhassay:
recently purchased a Q10. I am new to all of this so please go easy on me. I have sonar and 98se and a midi controller keyboard. when I hit a key on my controller using a softsynth in sonar the sound plays 2 or 3 seconds later or so. Is this what the WDM driver is all about? Is this suppose to correct the timing? If this driver is not out yet then what do I do to get this latency a little less obvious? What else does this driver effect? I have always heard to use 98se for dig. recording. Is this still true or should I try out my xp pro for it?


Thats what the WDM drivers are for. Cakewalk is written to use WDM. Aardvark only has ASIO at the moment. If you were using Cubase or Logic you wouldnt have a problem, since they use the ASIO drivers, but Sonar doesnt use ASIO. You could try lowering you Directsound buffer, but it wont work as good as if you had WDM drivers.

[Rv-Sound]

Or for the meantime, record a midi track using an external keyboard's sounds etc, and then route that miditrack to the softsynth.

Now where is slight...?

[Boom]

Originally posted by CubaseAark:
I will bet anyone here a $100 that the driver will not be released Feb 1st or by March 1st. If it is it will be the first time Aardvark has told the truth about a driver release. Anyone want a Aark 24 for $450? Drop me an e-mail.

Im glad I didnt bet against you!!!! If they put half the effort into writing drivers as they do making pretty websites, we might have them....

[SarkaPRO]

So now we have a driver called TURBO MODE. I'm a bit confused here since we already have cards with latency 1ms.

Hopefully they ment 3-4ms latency having 6-8 tracks and about 6-10 plug-ins running in the same time for a longer period of time ?

[BostonCake]

Have you tried the Frontier Dakota card? I'm using the Beta 5 WDM drivers and it seems to work just fine (Win2K, SONAR, GigaStudio, CoolEdit2K, SF 5). I know others are using Beta 6a drivers as well.

Best.
Tyson

[tylerjwatkins]

Any common fixes for this?????????
I've owned a Q10 for a few months now and I am still crashing my computer about once an hour. I can track and mix but i still get a computer lock up and have to reboot... I have optimized my computer for audio only, (But i am sharing a couple IRQ's),, I'm useing Nuendo, and It seems to crash when i work quickly, or sometimes just because it wants to crash,, I've tried not using certain plug-ins... Sometimes crashes with a lot(12-20) of tracks and sometimes with just 2 or 3 tracks. It also crashes when I try to adjust the preamp levels during recording??? I'm using windows 98???? I'm sure my computer is fast enougt AMD761, 1.4GHz, 7200Rpm,60gigs,..... Any updates or ideas,,, i can't continue to work like this any common fixes for this????????
thank you,

[slight]

Rv-Sound- I've been having some ISP problems, sorry i havent gotten back to you.. I didn't get a new beta 5 driver, they just sent me a couple patch files to fix the installation problems i was having. If you got beta 5 installed, there's nothing these would do for you...

[Rv-Sound]

Ok, do u have those patch files available?
Thanks in advance!

[dawboxpro]

Press Release


DAWBOX™ has been closely working with Aardvark to design a DAW System that will work with Windows XP, AMDs’ XP-CPU and Intel P4. Currently they are still in beta mode with the XP drivers and some have experienced success while others have failed to get the Q10 working under XP. Well we are here to say that we have a working Windows XP DAW that runs great with the Q10 for Pentium 4 and AMD. What is the secret? Experience with Audio PCs’. In January of 2001 we had a Pre Working Model AMD system for the Digi-001 that wound up being Digidesigns recommended configuration for AMD systems. DAWBOX ™ was 6 months ahead of the game offering AMD solutions that performed rock solid. It will only be a matter of about a month or days before Aardvark releases a flagship XP/WDM driver for Microsoft’s newest “Super OS”

Currently we are offering a wide range of DAWs’ that work great with Aardvarks products. From the Direct Pro 24/96 to the Q10 and the Aark 24 we have a solution that works out of “The Box”

There are a lot of hobby system builders and techs who have had serious issues getting XP to work with Aardvark Products due to lack of experience and poor hardware choices. Are we here to tell you how to build it yourself or offer free tech support? No but if you are interested in owning a “Rock Solid” Aardvark DAW System we have the Pro Experience to bypass all of the issues the others are experiencing and build you the system you deserve for the lowest price in the country with the highest level of service.


Sincerely,


Justin DAW-Pro/Engineer
http://www.dawbox.com

[Bupa9048]

You say the flagship WDM XP drivers will be out for Aardvark within a month or days. What does that mean?

[gascap]

Originally posted by dawboxpro:

Are we here to tell you how to build it yourself or offer free tech support? No but if you are interested in owning a “Rock Solid” Aardvark DAW System we have the Pro Experience to bypass all of the issues the others are experiencing and build you the system you deserve for the lowest price in the country with the highest level of service.


Sincerely,


Justin DAW-Pro/Engineer
http://www.dawbox.com

Well that's just fine and I have little doubt that Dawbox delivers. The problem is, if Aardvark has the same answers as to how to "bypass all the issues"..THEY SHOULD offer free and clear solutions for those of us who have shelled out good money and have patiently (some not-so patiently) sat on our hands.....waiting. The next time you see the Aardvark folks at your next "corrective troubleshooting session" clue them in that those of us who have already PAID would welcome the knowledge that dawbox apparently has.

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[CubaseAark]

I fixed my Aark 24 problems!!! Everything is perfect. What I did is I removed the PCI Card from my PC, put the break out box, cable and card into a box and sold it on ebay. What I am going to do next is order a RME Hammerfall 9652 card and and adi 8 pro breakout box. Thanks for all the help Aardvark! By the way i tested the Aark 24 with multiple PC's and mine just wouldnt run on a P4 chip so I think Aardvark is gonna have a long road ahead of them fixing the issues they have, especially when I call and they tell me to swap the card into different slots on the mother board to try and fix the issues I have...that was the only advice they had. I have been a PC tech for 6 years and In my book it is hopeless. I will be recording with my new setup and will not be dealing with this crap anymore.

[Flex]

That is how I solved my Aardvark problems also. I took the card back. Aardvark needs to get some help from University Of Michigan because they obviously cannot figure this out them selves.

Flex http://www.audioforums.com/forums/biggrin.gif

[slight]

Have you guys even tried calling Aardvark?After all the emails getting me installed, i had some questions that would have been much easier to answer over the phone- so i called 'em up, and it looks like they ARE doing phone support. I can understand some of the fustration through this whole ordeal, but some of you just really need to chill out. you're so ready to start flipping out at the drop of a hat if you get a tiny kink in your plans. i really hope i never meet some of you in "real" life..
(i'll send that right out to you, RV-Sound)

[Boom]

Originally posted by dawboxpro:

There are a lot of hobby system builders and techs who have had serious issues getting XP to work with Aardvark Products due to lack of experience and poor hardware choices. http://www.dawbox.com

99% of the problems people have on this board are totally unrelated to hardware or lack of experience. The problems are related to Aardvarks's Beta drivers and nothing more.

[gascap]

Slight-

you're right...I just had a fruitless late-night computer session and no breakfast this morning. Things are better now. Sorry for any hostility.

[CubaseAark]

Lack of experience and bad hardware choices??? Aardvark sells a product that hooks up to a PC to record music. Where is the support? They do not suggest any special type of hardware for their equipment on their web site or on their packaging of the equipment they sell, so what should you use? Aardvark cant support any OS that has been made in the last 4 years period. That Sucks.

[E]

They dont support ME? Then what am I running my Direct Pro on? Did ME come out a year ago? yes...

As for the guy who got upset because they didnt sell him one directly just because he lives in the same town: Buy a clue thats not how the system works. Will Fender sell you a guitar direct? Yes. But you will pay full list price. Thats what music stores are in business to provide: retail prices.

You people have some valid points about the XP beta drivers that may not be working for your particular setup, but some of you are just using any excuse to internet flame.

[slight]

gascap - no problem, i wasn't reffering to any one specifically, excepct..

CubaseAark - just what are you talking about? >>"Aardvark cant support any OS that has been made in the last 4 years period."<<
Their support is great, one of the main reasons i bought the card (as well as many other people)- do some research.

[jbsongs]

Before I upgraded to XP, I specifically asked Ben Mullins (through a phone call to Aardvark) if I should do that and he stated that yes, he had "all the confidence in the world" that Beta 5 Drivers would work great. Two months later...nada - no working system. OK - granted they are BETA drivers - but in this competitive world of soundcards, you're as good as your last product (including drivers) Many competitors are beginning to base their advertising on their solid XP drivers. I'm sure the people at Aardvark are nice folks, but don't bash the consumer for having and voicing reasonable expectations for product support. I don't think we're being impatient. If Aardvark can't get the job done - then subcontract out for help writing drivers - and get back to being known for a great-sounding card! It's also a bit disingenous having the XP logo in their new website when they don't have solid drivers yet - and yes, I have participated through e-mail for beta development.

[CubaseAark]

Sorry about ME I forgot about that breakthrough OS, it's so much more superior than win 98. Aardvark does not run on XP or Win 2000. If you do have it running on it consider yourself lucky. Aardvark has lied many times, when I bought my Aark 24 and got it home I found out they didnt even have the 24 bit drivers made yet! The product is Called AARK 24!!! and it didnt even support 24 bit!!! They came out with the drivers months later. It is almost march now and I think they said the XP drivers would be coming out...they wont. I really liked my Aark 24 but I just hit a wall, I want to record music not be mr. tech guy in the studio every night, I do that enough at work.
I hope your Aardvark gear treats you great and serves it's purpose for recording music for you, as for me it failed miserably.

[CubaseAark]

doh!!

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[Shri]

So does the Direct Pro work on WinXP at all? Can I use the MME drivers with Cakewalk ProAudio 9? With Cakewalk Sonar? I could live with higher latencies for a while, until the WDM drivers come out.

But do I *have* to go with ASIO software, or if I can use Cakewalk on my WinXP machine?

[oops]

I too am frustrated with lack of wdm drivers but with 98selite and a patch for via chipset latency-- by George Breese"The unofficial pci latency patch for via" My latency with synths and Sonarxl has dropped to below 4 mils. Still have oddities pop up from time to time but am currently stable and have been all along. However wdm should provide a bit more. I'm curious more than anything about the lack of response from a company that makes really great sounding cards. Until I become the worlds next greatest keyboard player I'll hang on for a bit longer. Ps with 1.4 over clocked to 1.6 a gig of memmory asus a7v133 and ata 66. I get over 40 tracks with plugs,5 sub mixes,3 mains. Audio midi and whatever. Recording with no latnecy on the audio side because of analog pre. Always using the headphone out on the aardvark for monitoring juring recording, as the outies on back seem to be post mix(creating latency)Anywhoo just curious. Take care.

[This message has been edited by oops (edited 04-23-2002).]

[moleman]

(This is a repeat of my last posting). I am currently using Aardvark Q-10 and love it.No it's not the worlds best I/O, and yes I too get frustrated waiting for them to develope WDM drivers.Yet using MME and Asio drivers has not prevented me from the prime objective....recording music.Sometimes I wonder if many of us spend more time tweaking our systems and worrying whether we have the latest, greatest instead of focusing on what these systems are used for.Just a thought.
Also for those who are not familiar with Aardvark (And no I do not work for them) they are primarily known for their sync distribution hardware. Their Aardsync is an industry standard for word clock distribution and their reputation is quite solid in that field. Unfortunately, branching out is sometimes not a great thing. I hope they catch up soon, before they write or rather unwrite themselves out of the I/O business.

[jbsongs]

They have a new email specifically for questions about drivers - but haven't responded to my requests for info. Has anyone actually spoken to a rep or received a response lately about when they believe drivers will be out - although I've lost all faith in them and am getting ready to buy an Echo Mona - another 700 bucks on top of the $450 I spent last Nov - Lucky I have a 2nd job!

[Boom]

Has anybody tried the new "pre release" drivers yet?

[Jeff Barrett]

I can see where most are coming from with this. While the Aardvark cards are extremely good, the drivers have always been as well, except for support beyond 98. Ive had my Aark2020 for a long time, over 3.5 yrs. When i first got it it was scheduled for a NT driver within 3 months of me buying it, Windows has Since now released Win2k and WinXP before i got this driver, Ive gone through many a computer upgrades and added a Aark24 since then. I would like the driver fairly soon if I could, but I am gettin rather skeptical as to whats going on there. I used to phone and get a secretary answer, now I get a shady telephone answer thats straight to the tech support guys. I hope this isnt an indication of them going under as they have been a really good company, their tech support before was incredible. I hope they get this issue worked out soon so as we can not worry bout drivers and instaed about the recording/making music.

Jeff Barrett www.dawconnection.com (http://www.dawconnection.com)

[4Leafed]

*boom
I registered to that 'pre release', but there isn't anything to download.
maybe aadvark will send a mail, when they have something new.

[oki]

loooooooooooooool,cubaseark.....looooooool.


I fixed my Aark 24 problems!!! Everything is perfect. What I did is I removed the PCI Card from my PC, put the break out box, cable and card into a box and sold it on ebay.


i hanostley couldnt help but laufging for that remark.lol...cubase

i agree man aardvark has a great soundcard but theres absolutely no excuse for any manufacturer not to have drivers when they sell a product.its their problem to solve not the consumers.

well i had the direct pro 24/96 and i loved it and i sold it so i could get the q10 more inputs etc.but i am glad havent got it yet thanks to the forum .we shall see i guess.
theres absulutely no reason for a manufacturer for not staying updated.ok let them do whatever with microsoft or else .all we care (the consumer) our problems not theirs waiting is no good in this business as i said i still like aardvark products,btw
have u seen aardvark site very poorly made do u agree?u couldnt even find the products a liitle way back,still to me dosnt look pro
and organized.but i like their cards,thats about it.

[studio912]

Thanks OKI I actually have changed my member name cause I was embarased to have it. Plus I use Logic and not Cubase also. Getting my RME hammerfall and creamware a16 in a few days...I cant wait.

[Aardvark]

Hello,

We have a new driver available for XP and 2000 called "Pre Release". You can sign up for this driver on our new website www.aardvarkaudio.com. (http://www.aardvarkaudio.com.) Go to the products page, then click on downloads. This will take you to a form that you must complete in order to be eligible to receive the driver.

The Pre Release will be available on a limited basis, for now until we can be certain that it will work for everybody.

You will then be notified by email from the driver team with directions to download the Pre Release driver. There will be some specific instructions that you will need to follow if you have installed a previous beta driver on your system.

Initial reports on the Pre Release driver have been very good, though more testing will be needed before it is an official release.

The old website, www.aardvark-pro.com (http://www.aardvark-pro.com) will soon be replaced by the new one www.aardvarkaudio.com (http://www.aardvarkaudio.com) once we finish up some graphics work on it. Its going to be a very user-friendly website when its completed.

We have put much effort into solving the driver installation issues that some of you have experienced. Our efforts appear to be paying off with the Pre Release, and I encourage any of you that had installation issues with the previous betas to fill out that form on the new website.

Id like to apologize for the delays in getting this issue fixed. There are valid reasons for delays, which unfortunately arose unexpectedly. Also, despite claims to the otherwise by some in this forum...we are doing very well, and very much care about supporting our customers with updated drivers.

If you have any questions regarding XP, 2K, WDM status feel free to email me at thomas@aardvark-pro.com.

Thanks,

Thomas Adler
Aardvark

[This message has been edited by Aardvark (edited 02-27-2002).]

[oki]

hi studoi912,its ok nothing to be embarresed of i probably done the same thing anyway.and u didnt bash aardvark u said u like their soundcard a lot only if they worked on xp.so its ok we need to buy products that we know they are gone work in this case the product is good, eccept the drivers are late. and it seems like mr adler came to the forum to let
us know and i respect a man who appears in person to assure everyone.i am glad about it am still craving for the q10 and waiting till the final xp drivers are out.

btw,is logic platinum 5 the same as 4.7?if so
than to me forget about its absolute nightmare to work on it.dont hate me for it guys i know lot of u using logic.it just dosnt look like a pro recording software a lot of jebrish if u know what i mean.it took me some time to find a mixer and it dosnt look like a mixer.now i might be wrong,correct me if u think u can.unless i am looking at the wrong software.

but,i am realy,realy getting to like samplitude 6.its a joy to work with it reminded me that i was a musician once again.

guys tell me something if i am missing on logic.realy if i am .

[Boom]

Originally posted by 4Leafed:
*boom
I registered to that 'pre release', but there isn't anything to download.
maybe aadvark will send a mail, when they have something new.


I just tried it. I had to remove the card from my PC. Once installed I had no midi. What a joke! The title of this thread is right on!

[studio912]

Oki regarding Logic. 5.0, it has an updated interface. Logic is very complex if you start digging into it. Many pro studio's run Pro Tools for audio and Logic for midi. Logic is still very good at audio but it's midi is very good. If you use a product like logic you will use the features you need and as time goes on most likely whatever you may need will most likely be in logic waiting for you to use. Check out the emagic forum on htis site and post some questions. Also check out www.emagic.de (http://www.emagic.de) website and look at the Logic Control that is coming out for version 5. It is very sweet and very affordable. I hear a lot of good things about Samplitue all the time I just have settleds on Logic for it's flexibility and it's very strong presence in the recording industry.

[oops]

WDM in XP. I'll get used to XP.
Its real fast with Sonar.
No problems just a couple of hiccups so far.
Its been worth the wait

[oops]

I take it back. The card based dsp eq reverb etc. Dosn't work in xp on my machine. Not with or without a second soundcard installed. Not with apic or pic. Not in any of the slots and not with any possible configuration of my asus a7v333 with tons of everyposssible options. Oh well back to version 6.35 which seems to work.

Originally posted by oops:
WDM in XP. I'll get used to XP.
Its real fast with Sonar.
No problems just a couple of hiccups so far.
Its been worth the wait

[gascap]

Yea, I went back to 6.35 driver in XP too. I only have one card and I don't need the 88.2kHz support.

All is well again.

[Rv-Sound]

has anybody noticed that with these drivers (v7) you can go down to more small ASIO buffers than the others?. The smallest latency you can get is 4ms at 16 bit/44.1 according to aadvark's panel, beign the buffer settings 192 or something like that. In the previous version there was only one more setting down (128 i think) but the latency increased. However, with the latest drivers, I can go as low as 32 samples. The strange thing is that according to aardvark's the latency increased, but according to fruity for example, latency is 0ms. CPU usage in fruity goes all the way up, wich seems logical, but I don't think there's such 0 ms latency. I mean, it sure feels like, but it can't be possible right?
Maybe fruity is screwing the reading?...But then again, it sure feels like there's no latency at all, while aardvark's CP is showing an increase...wtf?...I don't know what's happening but I like it http://www.audioforums.com/forums/wink.gif
whats the lowest buffer sizes you can get fellas?

[Nick Driver]

I'm getting 4ms latency at 192 ASIO buffer size in the Direct Pro Control panel applet.

Sonar 2.0XL tells me I can go all the way down to 1ms "mixing latency" but the audio starts sounding "grainy" and distorted until I turn it back up to 3ms.

[TeleCarlos]

Hi,

Reading this thread reminds a lot when I was researching to get my own system to work properly. Difference is the brand. My Maudio Delta 66 / Omni I/O is boxed at the moment, never could get it to properly work with my AMD tbird 1.2 / Asus a7v (via chipset) mobo properly. Silly me, I recently sold cpu and mobo in order to get a P3 combo to avoid any more conflicts. All the Delta forums show same disgust as those shown here.

Point to the story???
Beats me.

Anyway, does anybody out there have a good recipe for a good working, self DAW????
Share it dammit. Seems to me there is a lot of people out here unable to record a decent note.

That's all I've got to say about that......for now.

[WireLine]

Let me just say this: I have been hearing people complain about Aardvark drivers for a long time, and the simple truth is: if you KNOW of these issues and buy their products anyway and it does not function well for you, then the buyer has no one to blame but themself. Aardvark has been VERY good to me and for me; I respect their work and products, but I am also smart enough to know the limitations of some systems. I for one love their sound, and everything they have advised me to do has worked like a charm...try getting that from other developers! I love it and my customers really don't care as long as it sounds great, which it does.

Point is: nothing is 100% perfect in every measurable way, and each brand, type, platform has its plusses and minues...ProTools is a bitch sometimes; analog tape takes a lot of maintenance, MDRs, RADAR, they all have their idiosyncricies which must be dealt with on a daily basis. If a person buys any product without full research, or chooses to ignore anecdotal reports about the product, then whatever happens can't be blamed on the maker.

(OT - if anyone wants to unload their Aask 24, email me! I like mine so much am pulling the 2496 to free up the slot, then adding 2 more 24s...)

[Rv-Sound]

Well said. However, if aardvark could improve their driver release response time, that would make them even better for me.

[oops]

I'm getting crackling at 96khz anyone else?
Also if you try to use the compressor at any setting with a bass guitar it rattles.
The reverb rattles as well.
I'ld love to get rid of the crackling and poping though.
Using a7v333 geforce2 xp1900+ aardvark 2496.
Anything.
email dupuis@islandnet.com thanks.

[Aardvark]

oops,

You dont mention what software you are running. Make sure your buffers and latency sliders are set high enough for your computer to handle it. This is a common cause of clicking... overlooked by many beginners.

Im not saying you are a beginner, but you dont indicate your experience level.

If this still doesnt work contact: tech@aardvark-pro.com or 734-665-8899 for tech support. If you email, be sure to state what software you are running.

----------------------------
As a side note: This thread really should die and a new one started.

Most of the problems and gripes listed here were for the old Windows XP/2000 Beta drivers.... and dont apply since the official drivers were released in April.

Where is "Ben I" by the way? He hasnt posted in months...since starting on his anti-Aardvark rant... hmmmmm interesting.

The Beta drivers are old news...So why not kill the thread with all of the old obsolete issues, and start fresh?

Thomas Adler
Aardvark

[studio912]

To funny this thread is still running...
I am getting 1.5 ms latency and never one crash ever. Of course that's on my RME Hammerfall 9652. ;-)

I hope the Q10 is running perfectly by now, if not that is ashame. It did look very nice when it came out.

[Stereo]

My Aardvark Pro Q10 is running greate. Thanks for the final version 7.0 now I can record 96 kHz and it is very stable with window xp and Cubase SX. I don't know what you guys are talking about having problems. It sounds great just as the reviews stated in all the magazines and my Q10 is stable then ever

[DjatWork]

I own an Aardvark D Pro24/96 and a Pulsar 2.

The pulsar is a 1500$$$ card, and creamware is in WDM Beta 3 version these days.
The WDM driver version of aardvark is not the best, but certainly works better than many others, including Creamwares and digidesings.

Windows 2000 came out 2 years ago, but in that time, people of audio where using Windows98, and all of us was especting that microsoft delivers a new OS based on windows 98 kernell. THen Millenium came to life, so there where no any real reason to go for windows 2000. The biggest manufacturers thaught that, includding Creamware, Digidesign, MOTU, etc etc...and WE, the users too.

Then Micro$oft decided by itselfe, as always do, that "the best" for all of us (may be for them?) was moving to an UNIVERSAL operating system that was "the best" for every user.

Then, when XP came to life, microsoft PUSHED strong to all the people to moove to XP, of course, thats their business, and at that moment all the Audio manufacturers had to start developping the new platforms. Not only the WDM drivers, but a COMPLETELY software/driver re/writting or strongly adapting.

There is NO ONE system that runs smooth under windows XP. Digi 001 does not, Creamware cards, MOTU, etc etc etc...

in ALL the market there is ONLY ONE card that was originally designed for WNT4, the Soundscape Mixtreme.

So I think that if we have to say "guilty" I would put the MICROSOFT name on the table and then make desitions.

Aardvark cards are EXCELENT quality and the technical supoprt is EXCELENT, itselfe and compairing to others.

DJATWORK!

[studio912]

Completely disagree. Microsoft aint to blame. They are not in the DAW business and sould not be held responsible at all. The audio folks that put these cards together and claim they are compatible with XP or ME or 98 and lie are to blame.
Aardvark sold me the Aark 24, after I took it home,hooked it up and tested it, guess what? It did not function in 24 bit mode. I waited a year for those drivers. When XP came out, forget it, nothing worked right. I did try, spent money, time and more time and then sold that thing.
I got an RME 9652 card and it is more solid with XP than a 5000 pound brick of lead. You do not know what you are talking about.

[Rv-Sound]

Originally posted by studio912:
Completely disagree. Microsoft aint to blame. They are not in the DAW business and sould not be held responsible at all. The audio folks that put these cards together and claim they are compatible with XP or ME or 98 and lie are to blame.
Aardvark sold me the Aark 24, after I took it home,hooked it up and tested it, guess what? It did not function in 24 bit mode. I waited a year for those drivers. When XP came out, forget it, nothing worked right. I did try, spent money, time and more time and then sold that thing.
I got an RME 9652 card and it is more solid with XP than a 5000 pound brick of lead. You do not know what you are talking about.

So what...u want us to ditch our cards and get RME just because you're so proud of it?...I've had my direct pro since for some years now and never had much problems with it. The old 9x drivers always worked as expected. I had a couple of problems with the 2k beta drivers but even then they were working, the latest drivers work pretty good and its been long since i've had a single crash related to them. And its strange, but I'm still running mine with a VIA kt133a mobo, a chipset wich many used to avoid. For me aardvark has delivered what they promised, don't generalize for the rest of us just because u weren't capable of get it up and running. I'm so tired of these kind of posts... http://www.audioforums.com/forums/frown.gif

[DjatWork]

Originally posted by studio912:

You do not know what you are talking about.

First at all give yourselfe a good COLD WATER SHAWER...

Then may be we can make a discussion that may help others and us.

that was the originall idea here. Wasn´t?

I RATIFY WHAT I HAD WRTITTEN IN THE LST POST.

IF you can give REASONS, give them and we can continue posting.

DJATWORK!

[studio912]

I am just saying I disagree. I was not satisfied at all with Aardvark's driver development. I waited and waited. They never came through for me. I am a PC Tech and troubleshooting their hardware was insane. I used different Mother boards etc.. and narrowed it all down to their drivers. I did really like Aardvark gear in the begining. But if you want 100% dependability and hardware that will grow with your needs and the times I find them to slow and driver support is buggy. I can't have someone paying me money in my studio and tell them I can't record because the hardware I use has drivers that are "ok" sometimes and today aint one of those days. I want to record in the studio not worry about **** like that. I guess we will have to agree to disagree. The last post was a little harsh, sorry I was drunk at the time.

[ALBERTPIKE]

Since this thread is revived, I will pass on my experience with the LX6 -- same as DP 24/96 without the mic preamps.
I am running Win XP. The Beta version of the driver for xp didn't recognize my MIDI port (it was a beta, after all). Problem fixed in the final release. Two problems I still notice with my new XP drivers: I cannot run my SB Live and do audio recording (very frustrating until I figured out the problem, and it was through this forum that I finally did), and the built in reverb still doesn't work. There are supposed to be fixes for these problems, and, AARDVARK, if you are listening would appreciate an update on these glitches. These are not major problems, in reality. The reverb is really just for studio monitoring, I add the final reverb in Cubase. And I just DISABLE the SB Live when I'm recording audio. If you are depending on your SB for MIDI, however, this may be a serious problem for you. I run my MIDI through an outboard and have no problems. One advantage of the Aardvark products is MIDI in's and out's.
Otherwise, my system on XP is very stable. I LOVE my Aardvark LX6. I appreciate that customer support answers my e-mails in one day. You can actually talk to these guys on the phone. I agree, if the product doesn't work for you, being nice doesn't matter, but the problems I have are minor and I think will be resolved. One thing I have learned, guys and gals: this is computer software and you have to commit yourself to working through some issues. That's the downside. The upside is this: for a few thousand dollars, you can have, in that little white box, a recording studio that would have cost you 100 grand plus just ten years ago. I am absolutely amazed at the quality of recordings I am getting in my home studio. Please, everybody, let's keep this in perspective!
This thread should be ended, and a new thread started that addresses the more contemporary issues.

[This message has been edited by ALBERTPIKE (edited 10-14-2002).]

[DjatWork]

Hey Studio, thats much better!!!! =)

My experience was different.
I had boufht my Aardvark 24/96 and every month I get a new driver version for 5 or 6 months. All with new features that I hadn´t originally "bought" with my card, like the +4db/-10db switch, and I really apreciate that.

I also had problems with the 24 Bits drivers under Sound Forge 5, but it seems to be a problem of sonic foundry and the 24bits format that they used.
Under ASIO apps I had no problems with 24 bits recording.

When I needed the tech support by mail, for any question, they had answered very well to me.

Of course thats my experience, but I believe that you had not that luck!

THe thing is that reading this topics it seems like the aardvark cards are crap, wich is not for me, and I´d like to clear that...

DjatWork!

[Stereo]

Well I know that there is still problems with the media player, I don't even use that **** . I use my Q10 to make music and let me tell you that it does it very good just as the reviews stated. Soundblaster... well take that stuff out. I don't have no problem with my Q10 running XP and SX. Well if there is something wrong if any that will be solve with an update. But now everything works fine for me.

[diminished]

AARDVARK UNITS rae great quality period.buttttttttt,since the xp showdown,their units have been in graet trouble with the xp drivers.its as simple as that.untill theres a solid and built drivers,AARDVARK unfortunately will lose selling units.dont worry,i had the direct pro 24/96 on win98 it was flawless.and got the q10,but had to take it back with the xp problems unfortunately.i will buy it again if and whenever the drivers become solid while we are breathing.somehow xpdrivers of the q10,didnt want sb cards around.
dont blame people who bought them but dont work,the consumer is not responsible for the manufacturer's errors or problems.

[SonarAardvark]

I have 2 24/96 cards and a SBLive card all running quite nicely in XP.

You just need to use the MS drivers for the SBlive, not Creative Labs drivers.

[ALBERTPIKE]

Originally posted by SonarAardvark:
I have 2 24/96 cards and a SBLive card all running quite nicely in XP.

You just need to use the MS drivers for the SBlive, not Creative Labs drivers.


Where do I find the MS drivers? Thanks

[DjatWork]

THe MS drivers are installed normally at any OS installation, or may be you can serarch them in the OS installation CD.

[Stereo]

Check out this new review of the Q10. It works great the is the end of it. http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=021021151001172175027084008931/content/g=home/s=articles/reports/doc_id=89065

[oops]

IMHO
Plug in a mic at96khz in xp with either driver 6.35 or 7. Turn it up. Listen.
Crackles? I'm asking.
I use 98se. I love the 2496 and am able to get to my clients what they want to hear recording at 96khz in 98se. This works fine.
I'll wait till the xp solution comes along.
I would love to use xp for the advantages of a quicker wdm driver, allowing me to mix and fix while I record. Not to mention the input monitoring in sonarxl. This would also allow my muscians the abillity to hear themselves through reverbs,compressors etc.
I had xp up no problems with the sounds and functions at all other than the crackling I mention at 96khz. This wasn't apparent in any other sampling rate. Too it happens with audigy card and a live. So its not just the aardvark. I'll wait. I do want to know what you find out though. http://www.rightwingproductions.com
Recording in Victoria,Bc,Canada

[directine]

opps: sorry, i just responded to you in the other thread, i guess i don't know what's up if you have the 24/96, you should call their tech support, best i've ever dealt with..

but as stereo said, let this be the end of it. Look at the date of the first post, December of LAST YEAR (what's that in internet time, like 5 years ago? http://www.audioforums.com/forums/smile.gif)

this thread is helping no one, let it die.

[Stereo]

Originally posted by oops:
IMHO
Plug in a mic at96khz in xp with either driver 6.35 or 7. Turn it up. Listen.
Crackles? I'm asking.
I use 98se. I love the 2496 and am able to get to my clients what they want to hear recording at 96khz in 98se. This works fine.
I'll wait till the xp solution comes along.
I would love to use xp for the advantages of a quicker wdm driver, allowing me to mix and fix while I record. Not to mention the input monitoring in sonarxl. This would also allow my muscians the abillity to hear themselves through reverbs,compressors etc.
I had xp up no problems with the sounds and functions at all other than the crackling I mention at 96khz. This wasn't apparent in any other sampling rate. Too it happens with audigy card and a live. So its not just the aardvark. I'll wait. I do want to know what you find out though. http://www.rightwingproductions.com
Recording in Victoria,Bc,Canada


I don't hear any crakles at 96 kHz. I use ther Q10 with XP and the new driver for me work perfect. I use to have an old modele of the Q10 so I pay like 35 dollars for the upgrade of my hardware, since it only supported 48 kHz. Since then no crakles. Call aardvark they will tell you what to do. But at 96 kHz it sounds perfect.

[oops]

How about some xp drivers that work.
Wdm like everyone else. With playback thats continuous,96khz recording,dsp that works,won't crash halfway through a session. I'ld like to work in a current os. XP would suit me for a long time. OS x be damned. http://www.rightwingproductions.com

[MisterX]

Originally posted by dawboxpro:
Press Release


DAWBOX™ has been closely working with Aardvark to design a DAW System that will work with Windows XP, AMDs’ XP-CPU and Intel P4. Currently they are still in beta mode with the XP drivers and some have experienced success while others have failed to get the Q10 working under XP. Well we are here to say that we have a working Windows XP DAW that runs great with the Q10 for Pentium 4 and AMD. What is the secret? Experience with Audio PCs’. In January of 2001 we had a Pre Working Model AMD system for the Digi-001 that wound up being Digidesigns recommended configuration for AMD systems. DAWBOX ™ was 6 months ahead of the game offering AMD solutions that performed rock solid. It will only be a matter of about a month or days before Aardvark releases a flagship XP/WDM driver for Microsoft’s newest “Super OS”

Currently we are offering a wide range of DAWs’ that work great with Aardvarks products. From the Direct Pro 24/96 to the Q10 and the Aark 24 we have a solution that works out of “The Box”

There are a lot of hobby system builders and techs who have had serious issues getting XP to work with Aardvark Products due to lack of experience and poor hardware choices. Are we here to tell you how to build it yourself or offer free tech support? No but if you are interested in owning a “Rock Solid” Aardvark DAW System we have the Pro Experience to bypass all of the issues the others are experiencing and build you the system you deserve for the lowest price in the country with the highest level of service.


Sincerely,


Justin DAW-Pro/Engineer
http://www.dawbox.com


Thanks for trolling this thread. You obviously missed the point of this forum.
Maybe somebody needs to explain the concept of a forum were members help other members to you. That's the whole idea behind a forum like this.
Not for someone like you to troll through the threads and attempt to sell your systems. In the future if you have actually something helpful to add feel free to post a reply. But if all you have to contribute to this forum is senseless self promotion then give it a rest.
Sorry to the other members and to the mods for going off on this ***.
If this was posted in any of the other forums that I visit, this member would be banned. http://www.audioforums.com/forums/frown.gif

[oops]

Why not post exactly what board chip etc you're using mr.expert and we'll all go out and put our own together. We're not a bunch of ninnys here. Working to try and get this thing to work or IMHO get aardvark to listen up and write drivers that work.
We live in an age where a 1000 some odd dollar system should upgrade to the next level at the very least. I gripe cause I like the aardvark box and system a lot.
I don't give a **** about the money just the concept. It works well in some os's not so well in at 96khz or when trying to use dsp or reverb in xp IMHO. I asked a member at aardvark to tell me exactly what system they would use to get the same quality sound at 96khz recording in xp. I didn't get a reply. http://www.rightwingproductions.com

[Hand Solo]

You know what's really funny?

I own a Seasound Solo EX, and I'm using the
inpdependently written WDM drivers. They work great.

They went out of business about three months after I bought the unit, and I thought for sure there would never be XP support. Lo and behold, a genius Seasound-user took it upon himself to write drivers. Maybe if Aardvark goes out of business, your driver problems will be solved too. http://www.audioforums.com/forums/smile.gif

Seriously, I hope you get good drivers... I just hate seeing the Seasound name being tarnished. It's still a beautiful unit, and XP is a lot nicer to work with than 98se... I resisted for a long time. With the proper tweaks and fat-trimming XP is great.


[This message has been edited by Hand Solo (edited 12-04-2002).]