Blew another MOBO

[Bops2000]

boatload of cooling, however, cheap aps unit

My idea fizzled so I am thinking the terratek sound cards are blowin the boards.

Itsplayed kinda knows what I am talkin about.
here is the third and final try for a pentium d socket 775 utiliizing crucial ddr 3200 memory.
Vidio machine multitasks flawlessly on a biostar mobo.
so I found one with old memory configs for DAW machine.

Just got it in
Biostar I945gG/P-M7
supports Core 2
runs an intel 945G express chip
$72 pazzoozas
here we go again.......

[nagal]

are you using a good quality power supply?
you might want to think about getting some ac line conditioning going in addition you a UPS.

[itsplayed]

Hi Bops, sorry to hear that! What is this now....board number 4 or 5?
I would tend to agree with Nagal on this.......a real beefy PSU, a quality line conditioner and a backup power supply may solve your ongoing issue.
What does your current power setup look like?
Also before installing that OS, kill all devices not being used such as USB, serial, parallel, floppy etc. within the BIOS(if you haven't done so)in order to free up resources.
Your interface is the Phase 88 cascaded, correct? How many are you using together?

[vulcan_dc]

yeah bops... like every one says... it must be the power.... faulty SMPS can really mess boards up too... !!!...

HTH... cheers...

[guanche]

What is MOBO?

[itsplayed]

What is MOBO?

It's short for motherboard(mainboard).

[87PRS]

bops have you checked the line voltage on the a/c outlet to see exactly how many volts are being sent to the wall plug?

[Bops2000]

Agree wit all of the above...
There is a 220 volt feed along this line
to the pool pump, although the line is 110 in the studio,
I suspect the phase of the pool motor is "hitting" me at power outages or surges, for now, I am gonna just move ac power to another outlet, such as the one that this machine is on, and go from there.
Power supply is an ultra gamer thingie not the issue that i can think of, 850 watts, still runs. I do have some issues where I thought power supplies were fused as to some degree of surge, hence my thoughts on "drain" if you will on the mobo, from the teratecs, perhaps they are just 'pulling' too much VA from the mobo and cooking components.
I've blown up worse things,
these days. vendors give you squat as far as specs ..
May just have to go with some other sound card that gets me 16 analog in from the board..

Itsplayed -yes cascaded terratecs, 2 running

[TimOBrien]

Moving to "another outlet" won't help if it's on the same electrical LINE.

And you should never have sensitive equipment on the same circuit as a heavy unit like a pump.

Sounds like you REALLY need an electrician before you start a fire!!

[Bops2000]

Moving to "another outlet" won't help if it's on the same electrical LINE.

And you should never have sensitive equipment on the same circuit as a heavy unit like a pump.

Sounds like you REALLY need an electrician before you start a fire!!
not a bad idea Tim,
the fire part

[mgrowe]

Might be a good idea to check the voltages coming out of your power supply to the motherboard (Can be done using a meter). Unlikely toi be overheating these days as most bios will shut down if too hot.
Power supply fault is the most likely as many others have said.

[Bops2000]

Might be a good idea to check the voltages coming out of your power supply to the motherboard (Can be done using a meter). Unlikely toi be overheating these days as most bios will shut down if too hot.
Power supply fault is the most likely as many others have said.

Agreed.
I do not beleive it is surges, heat, video, or cpu overload, I have enough line conditioning chit covering this stuff, as well as dedicated aps units (3 thus far) for different entities. Every build gets a new psu, an now I have a couple of psu's working, creating space.
My worst nightmare is the teratec cards, they are perhaps becoming obsolete, and for what they can do, to replace the ability to run 16 analog in and out simultaenously from an analog board; with another periphreal is gonna mean big dollars, or I can downsize... Run a self contained daw with a maudio card or somthing.
I appreciate the concern guys, genuinly, (I cant spell worth a chit - I usually have Admin do that).
I like to hack through things though, SO the scenerio is as such.
AMD MOBO's -2 blown, I got replaced and am using in admin and video machines.
Intel Mobo - blown
Biostar- running a Biostar with AMD for primary video as well as graphics, and this email/internet, and working well multitasks very well on 2 gig ram.
We are trying the Biostar i945g-m7, 945g Intel express chipset that supports ddr2, and core 2, with a pentium d processor on this run, a $72.00 board ( we bought 3, and already found a bad one with mis-aligned tines to processor), if this fails, the teratecs may be placed in my good old compac that I have had for 6 years now.
I don't mind building 'puters, but it is not what I wish to do, particularly, when I need the rig now.
This was winded response . sorry folks, but again thanks
for your ideas.

[sabianq]

have you thought about getting a TYAN?

with all of the money you have put towards you computer, you should just invest in a Really Really Really good MOBO like a Tyan.

here is the Thunder K8QS
http://www.tyan.sk/image/s4882_l.jpg

supports 4 dual core opteron 64 bit AMD CPU's and holds 32 gigabytes of RAM

or the new Thunder n4250QE ( http://tyan.com/product_board_spec.aspx?pid=271 )

http://tyan.com/images/systemboards/s4985.gif

• Four 1207-pin sockets support AMD Opteron™
(Rev. F) 8000 series processors
• Uses the standard 3 1/2"/ 89mm socket connector
• Four onboard 5-phase digital VRMs

• Dual channel memory bus
• (16) 240-pin DDR2 DIMM sockets (four per CPU)
• Up to 64GB of DDR2 667/533/400 DIMMs
• Supports reg., ECC, & four rank mem. modules

• (2) PCI-E x16 slots (with x16 signal)
• (2) PCI-E x16 slots (with x4 signal)
• (1) PCI v2.3 32-bit 33MHz slot
• (5) Usable expansion slots total

[Bops2000]

I will not use AMD for audio, unless they give the chips to me, lousy support.
That board looks sweet, let me prove the teratecs are the issue first with the biostar.

other good news though Mix magazine sent me a dollar...

[sabianq]

I will not use AMD for audio, unless they give the chips to me, lousy support.
That board looks sweet, let me prove the teratecs are the issue first with the biostar.

other good news though Mix magazine sent me a dollar...


which Teratec are you using?



I guess some people don't work well with certain CPU's
I have always had issues with INTEL and AMD has always been rock solid and super stable.

however, if your looking for a good MOBO for Intel CPU's, Tyan also makes top of the line boards that also support Intel.
These boards are use extensively in the government for weapons control, field processors and shielded network servers. Because of their amazing stability and ruggedness, the boards are virtually indestructible and only susceptible to technology change. I had on for years running an old AMD 1Ghz Thunderbird processor, the board just kept working no matter how many gold fish crackers the neighbor kid dropped in the empty drive bay.

http://www.tyan.com/images/systemboards/s2696.gif
dual CPU
32 gigs of memory


http://www.tyan.com/product_board_detail.aspx?pid=43
http://www.gamepc.com/images/labs/rev-tyan5000-xboardSM.jpg
(The blue SATA ports on the image above are actually Serial Attached SCSI (SAS) ports. These ports support a 3 GBps interface and are connected to an LSI Logic 1068E SAS controller chip)
The above board is expected to run between 500 and 600 "pazzoozas"

here is the consumer version of the board,
it only supports 16 gigabytes of memory

http://www.gamepc.com/images/labs/rev-tyan5000-xlboardSM.jpg

if your interested, a good review can be found here
http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_content.asp?id=tyan5000&page=1

[Bops2000]

right now I am reconfiggin the new daw as we speak.
My bud gave me an insert for a hard drive where you can pull the darn thing out and replace it with another, no it's not a hot swap, just a gizmo to pull hard drives, obviously its made for longer boxes. so I am copy'ing files from one serial to another fer now. I think it is time to just build a DAW box from scratch, meaning fabricating the tin case and all. If wozniak can throw it in a brief case, then I surely could make it usable, as well as reusable, for various components. I am probably trying to re-invent the wheel, but if you want somthing to your specs, best off to just do it yourself. I guess ya gotta shake the bush a bit to find out what critter ya gotta deal with...(dats Florida talk)

[Bops2000]

which Teratec are you using?



I guess some people don't work well with certain CPU's
I have always had issues with INTEL and AMD has always been rock solid and super stable.

however, if your looking for a good MOBO for Intel CPU's, Tyan also makes top of the line boards that also support Intel.
These boards are use extensively in the government for weapons control, field processors and shielded network servers. Because of their amazing stability and ruggedness, the boards are virtually indestructible and only susceptible to technology change. I had on for years running an old AMD 1Ghz Thunderbird processor, the board just kept working no matter how many gold fish crackers the neighbor kid dropped in the empty drive bay.

http://www.tyan.com/images/systemboards/s2696.gif
dual CPU
32 gigs of memory


http://www.tyan.com/product_board_detail.aspx?pid=43
http://www.gamepc.com/images/labs/rev-tyan5000-xboardSM.jpg
(The blue SATA ports on the image above are actually Serial Attached SCSI (SAS) ports. These ports support a 3 GBps interface and are connected to an LSI Logic 1068E SAS controller chip)
The above board is expected to run between 500 and 600 "pazzoozas"

here is the consumer version of the board,
it only supports 16 gigabytes of memory

http://www.gamepc.com/images/labs/rev-tyan5000-xlboardSM.jpg

if your interested, a good review can be found here
http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_content.asp?id=tyan5000&page=1

Jeepers and you guys were talking heat and power demands !.... No way am I givin up the beer fridge to house a motherboard.

[sabianq]

Duh!
everybody knows that the mother board works better when it is encased in the beer fridge.


or better yet,
make one of these
use the cold beer to cool the CPU

http://cache.gizmodo.com/gadgets/images/beer_pc.jpg

:D

[Bops2000]

this is the somewhat limited board running 2 gig of corsair value memory,