m audio audiophile 192

[passerby3141]

Does anyone here happen to use this, or have used it?

I was wondering if you can monitor your Recording software's outputs on the analog outputs. I downloaded the manual, and unlike my Delta 44, where all the outputs are assignable, it seems only the s/pdif output is with the audiophile 192. Am I missing something obvious here?

Also I noticed that on most sites selling the audiophile 192, they only list 2 analog outputs, but the manual mentions main outputs, monitor outputs, and s/pdif outputs. Unfortunately, the manual doesn't go into much detail as to the difference between the main and monitor outputs, if there is any.

Are the main outputs the mix outputs, and the monitor outputs hard-wired for input monitoring? This is the only explanation I can think of.

[David Muniz]

The Audiophile 192 is a 2 in 2 out analog card, plus SPDIF I/O

It has an extra pair of monitor outs, so you'll find two pairs of outputs. the MAIN OUT's source is the 1 and 2 software return bus. From the MAIN OUT you will only here playback from your software. This includes DAW software and things like Windows Media Player.

The MONITOR OUT's source is the Monitory Mixer on the Control Panel. Here you can mix the 1 and 2 software return bus with the HardWare IN (direct monitoring) bus, SPDIF Software return bus, and SPDIF IN (s/pdif direct monitoring) bus.

The idea is you'd connect the MONITOR OUTS to you monitors and mix between your sources using the monitor mixer. The MAIN OUTS can then be routed as a send effect of to an secondary record system.

DIG?

[djace1]

bought a 192 yesterday, primarily to start the road to produce for myself and would like to know if can use this card for djing in Live.

can i assign one set of the outs so i can listen to the cued track in my headphones, while playing out the other track on the other outs?

i'm very new to this and don't understand the difference between main outs and monitors on this card. i read something about needing a headphone amp to get all of this to works.

thanks for any help you can provide. cheers.

[AndyH]

The card is not designed to deliver any power, only a voltage signal. That means you do need some kind of amplifier to drive headphones or speakers. It is possible that if you make some kind of adapter to actually connect small headphones (just headphones, no amplifier), you will be able to hear something, but it won't be very good.

I'm not familiar with the card's outputs but the preceding post's description seems to say that one output, the MAIN, will only output from software. Does "while playing out the other track on the other outs" describe something playing via a computer program from your hard drive?

The other outputs, the MONITOR, is a mixture of the software output above and the input jacks. IF the monitor mixer is similar enough to the Audiophile 2496, you would be able to mute the software. Then you will be monitoring only the direct input -- but not a different software playback.

In other words it would seem to be workable if, and only if, you are alternating between one song playing on the computer and the next coming in from an external piece of hardware, back and forth.

[djace1]

cheers for the reply. the idea was to use just Ableton Live to practice/compose/play out dj sets.

i've got three sound cards on my computer - no i'm not some tech wizard, that was just how my computer has ended up (1 x on-board, 1 x 16-bit sound blaster and audiophile 192) and something tells me that with this combination of soundcards i could (should be able to?) use by desktop like a conventional 2xturntable/mixer set up.

i wanted to try and use the 192 only, but maybe this is the wrong idea. the reference to the 'other outs' was to 192's monitor outs. i understand what you are saying.

i used traktor once and was able to use two soundcards and this worked but would like to give Live ago because of all of the other features.

[AndyH]

It is possible to use two or more soundcards for various things from one program, depending ... . ASIO allows only one driver, thus one soundcard, to be active at a time. Various others don't have that restriction. I can use three soundcards at once under Win98 with MME drivers (in any program that supports multi-track or multi-output).

This would not be useful for everything, because each soundcard has its own clock, and thus will not stay in synch with the others. How important that is depends on what one is doing. For serious work, just get a multi-channel card and avoid all the hassles.

[David Muniz]

The Audiophile 192 actually has 2 output PAIRS (as in 4 mono output streams) from the computer. In other words, in your software, such as Ableton Live, you'll have output option that read something like this:

AudioPhile 1/2
AudioPhile S/PDIF L/R

THe CUE mid in LIVE can be routed out of S/PDIF.
Using the analog MAIN output pair, you can get only 1/2 out (the main out of ableton)
then from the Monitor out, you can mute all but the S/PDIF signal on the monitor mixer. Even though this signal is being fed directly to the S/PDIF (digital) out, it is also going to the MONITOR MIXER, which means it can also come out of the MONITOR (analog)outs of the card. You can then connect those to a headphone amp and cue mix like this. You could also, using the MONITOR MIXER, get a mix of both 1/2 out (main out from Live) and S/PDIF out (Cue MIX from Live) so that you can hear both in the headphones.

HOWEVER - I would recommend another Audio interface better suited for this, such as a FireWire 410 or FireWire Audiophile. These have headphone outs which can easily receive an output stream from any of the busses. It was actually designed for what you are trying to do with the Audiophile 192.

Dig?

[djace1]

thanks for the reply david, that was exactly what i was looking for.