CEP 2.0: No sound from Multitrack

[Stewbone]

Greetings Cronies,

I've been using Cool Edit Pro 2 for close to a year now. I've had issues, but these have been pretty much general system issues. I (still) am getting hold of an Intel motherboard (moving from a Via), and I've gottten RAM (DDR- 200 FSB) up to 384 MB. So I'm still looking at getting up to standard, here. But with RAM at 384 MB, I've been doing well with CEP- no more hangs...

Now... I've recently installed some new Sonic Foundry apps, Acid 4.0 and Sound Forge 6.0, into my newly cleaned-out W_XP registry. The Sonic Foundry stuff is working fine, but in Cool Edit I'm not getting audio from playback in the multitrack window, and I'm hanging up CEP from time to time as well.

I can still record to Cool Edit in multitrack- though I can't, of course, use the track EQ- and the edit window does give up playback and appears to function fully, except for the occasional 'hang'. This happens mostly when switching a file between programs: Bringing it in to CEP for editing, with the intention of using it in Acid, for example. (Acid and S.Forge are integrated, but I know and like Cool Edit...).

I am loth to uninstall any programs, as I've found that remnants that get left behind in the registry tend to be available for fouling the water for the remaining applications. And the registry cleaner doesn't get EVERYTHING. Also I am liking the Acid and Soundforge... (oh, what will I do! :p )

I will at this point be upbraided for the motherboard and RAM issue, and for installing new programs along with Cool Edit in light of this. That's cool- but hey, I had to do it! But:

All my control panels, device menus are properly attributed: Devices are assigned as they should be, etc. Acid and Soundforge are using ASIO drivers, Cool Edit uses WDM. Could this be a problem?

Whatever- this may be a sort of useless post, seeing as I seem to know some of my problem! But let's call it data for the information pool, I guess. Thanks for your time!

Rog

[MASTERHERM]

Rog,Just to keep this simple,Because I had some issues when I was Using CEP2.Always check thw audio settings In control pannel.For some reason,Things Tend to shift when using sound forge .Dont know why.What Sound card are you Using?

[Stewbone]

Hey, MHRM,

A'right, I'm using a Tascam US-428. I will go back and look at that Audio settings window. Also, I need to correct my note about the drivers: Everything is using WDM, not ASIO.

Thanks for the look-in, I appreciate the help!

Rog.

[lpdeluxe]

Rog., my setup doesn't record when "Try as WDM" is checked. Each input pair had to be "un-checked" for it to record on 8 channels. I don't know why it is, but you might try that. AA works fine with the older drivers (MME?).

[Stewbone]

Hey, LP,

I'll try it. I've been able to use the Try As WDM setting until now, if that's the case. Everything else seems to work fine with the WDM. Boy, make a change, and you've got to be ready for anything!

I'll try the MME driver. Thanks for the idea,

Rog.

[Stewbone]

I got it worked out- I can still use WDM drivers. It was, ah,... I had "C-Media Wave Device" selected in a drop-down menu instead of US-428! Hee-hee... ahem. I may be trying to do too much in my life. Thinking about selling the house...

Right. CEP is still hanging up a bit, though. Muthurbord (an Intel 865) is next on the 'List of Adjustments' in my Computer Life. Sigh. Still, I'm managing to get little bits of work accomplished as I cut and stomp my way through this forest of enlightenment. :D

I am done complaining, though! Did a bunch of that a few months ago, a couple of you readers/posters (DAW Poster Chilluns) may have sat through a rant of mine! But now, Fun is beginning to pop its' funny little head out! Got a few gas riffs on the Drive. I'll get bold and post an mp3 here pretty soon. I'll be accepting critiques and suggestions for 'day jobs' (as in second ones) as soon as it's up. Thanks for everything, everyone!

Rog.

[lpdeluxe]

Good morning, Rog. So your computer works with WDM? I believe that's a bit more up-to-date than what I'm using. How many tracks can you record at once?

[MASTERHERM]

Hmm, This is an Interesting question.How many channels can you record with Wdm drivers on older computers?I think I might be having some problems with this.I need more information before A conclusion is made.

[lpdeluxe]

It's not really an older computer (built 02/04, XP) but Terratec's drivers for WDM don't seem up to snuff and Adobe doesn't do ASIO...

[MASTERHERM]

Here is my dilema;My sound card uses wdw or pure wave which is ok.Now when I record lets say, 6 to more tracks simultaneously,
recording is no problem,Now when i record to another track which has a wave file,(overdubb)or recording while playback,Computer goes into blue screen formatt,which is also known as program de-bugging mode.This should not happen unless i have a wrong setting somewhere?

Driving me out of this world.What do you say my friend?:confused:

[lpdeluxe]

There's a lot of info on such problems at the Adobe Audition forum: http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx?14@210.j4Jqc4NdIk2.0@.1de98f7a
If you haven't already, you might check them out. I was reading of problems similar to yours this morning. Good luck.

[MASTERHERM]

Hmmm,This is getting more and more interesting by the moment.
I truly believe,its not Adobe audtion that is causing the problem.
I have narrowed it down to Souncard drivers or Windows o/s.But Not sure who to blame.Today I will test some more.

[lpdeluxe]

My experience with XP/AA is that it is the most stable program I have ever run. My other computer will crash with Photoshop but this one runs like a train. This leads me to believe that a lot of the instabililty people experience is due to the sound cards or other peripherals. It is also apparent that some manufacturers are not very good at writing drivers. Just my $.02, and virtual at that.

[MASTERHERM]

Well,My only problem is recording while playing back,in other words,Reading while writing.With the amount of recordings and overdubbing I have to do,This is a Big Inconvinience.And it only happened after I upgraded to W2K AND wdw soundcard divers.I have researched Microsoft for Service packs and related bulletins.
I have found some information on the O/S regarding "Reading while writing"Or for us "recording while playing".Lets see what Happens.Hey thanks for the AA Link,Now we are getting somewhere.

[Stewbone]

Originally posted by lpdeluxe
Good morning, Rog. So your computer works with WDM? I believe that's a bit more up-to-date than what I'm using. How many tracks can you record at once?

Well, lp, with the Tascam, I can record 4 at a time. I think I could do 8 if I had the E-Mu 1820 card. Since it's not USB... I don't know the limit.

Pardon my latency- I've been away from the library!

Rog.